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Kano
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20th Apr 05 at 09:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right ave got a corsa sport lowered 60mm on a full apex kit. Would putting nova 60mm springs in make it any lower? Not bothered bout rubbing or clearance, only got cav gsi 15s with 45 profile tyres.
Thanks....xx
Dave A
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20th Apr 05 at 09:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

why would you want to ruin your handling even more?
Kano
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What??? The handling will be better. Lower centre of gravity an all that.
A dnt understand folk like u!!?? The lower the better..... Woooooooooo
PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
why would you want to ruin your handling even more?


I'm -75mm front, -65mm rear... ask Adam_D, Adam_B, Richy Lee, Hazey... they all seen it

tbh handling now is excellent now I've finally sorted out the rebound settings on the shocks & adjusted the hight a little more...

waiting now to remove the front ARB & fit a whiteline ARB on the rear to get it even better!
Kano
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20th Apr 05 at 10:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That with nova springs like? Wantin it low as possible. Not to keen on cutting springs but if nova springs dnt take it down any more the grinders coming out.
dna23
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20th Apr 05 at 10:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nova springs will lower it more but if u want some serious drop invest in some coilovers thats wat PaulW has i wudda thought although his garage says its standard
corsa_boi
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i have 60mm apex kit with nova springs, its not that low mate, the front is nice and sits just under the arch but the rear could lower alot more, sits lower at the front. the handling is mint but i want to go lower at the back to, i might just buy some coilovers,lower it about 90mm
Kano
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20th Apr 05 at 10:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Back coilovers arent height adjustable tho. Mines the opposite. Its a bit lower at the bk than the front. How much lower would nova springs take it? Worth 65 quid?
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
why would you want to ruin your handling even more?


I'm -75mm front, -65mm rear... ask Adam_D, Adam_B, Richy Lee, Hazey... they all seen it

tbh handling now is excellent now I've finally sorted out the rebound settings on the shocks & adjusted the hight a little more...

waiting now to remove the front ARB & fit a whiteline ARB on the rear to get it even better!


oh yes, the no front ARB, whiteline rear ARB combo as trialed by me works a treat, you will be impressed i think.
AdiSRI
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quote:
Originally posted by Kano
Back coilovers arent height adjustable tho. Mines the opposite. Its a bit lower at the bk than the front. How much lower would nova springs take it? Worth 65 quid?


my FK coilovers are rear height adjustible....
corsa_boi
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how much can you lower your fk's by mate? i was thinking of getting these, they any gd?
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by AdiSRI
quote:
Originally posted by Kano
Back coilovers arent height adjustable tho. Mines the opposite. Its a bit lower at the bk than the front. How much lower would nova springs take it? Worth 65 quid?


my FK coilovers are rear height adjustible....


How does that work? Adjustable spring platform or somethin? Or is the spring mounted to the shocky instead???
TOMAS
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20th Apr 05 at 10:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Lower than 60mm for me is horrible, suppose its ok if your car is stripped and lightweight but over the years ive gradually got higher and now run the front at 40mm rear at 60mm and im looking for rear 40mm tarmac springs. I run GrpA Rally Tarmac coilovers with pollybushes, alloy eccentric topmounts no front ARB.
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its a platform. lowers between 40-70 or so at the back, bit lower if you dont use the plaform at all...
corsa_boi
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how much have you got yours lowered by about? that ur car in your garage with the fk coilovers on?
AdiSRI
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lowered about 50mm i think, got plenty more thread left to go lower when i get the time.
corsa_boi
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looks nice mate, where did you get you fk kit from? how much? whats the ride like? Jon
PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by dna23
Nova springs will lower it more but if u want some serious drop invest in some coilovers thats wat PaulW has i wudda thought although his garage says its standard


I've not updated my garage in some time

SPAX RSX Coilovers is what I have...
Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Kano
What??? The handling will be better. Lower centre of gravity an all that.
A dnt understand folk like u!!?? The lower the better..... Woooooooooo



you find me a race spec/track use corsa with -70mm suspension.

you wont.

you need a certain amount of movement in your suspension to allow for weight transfer.

obviously you havnt learned to drive a car properly, and have never driven on a track or your a chav

speak to the suspension experts like bilstein, eibach etc,
Kano
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
quote:
Originally posted by Kano
What??? The handling will be better. Lower centre of gravity an all that.
A dnt understand folk like u!!?? The lower the better..... Woooooooooo



you find me a race spec/track use corsa with -70mm suspension.

you wont.

you need a certain amount of movement in your suspension to allow for weight transfer.

obviously you havnt learned to drive a car properly, and have never driven on a track or your a chav

speak to the suspension experts like bilstein, eibach etc,


What the fuk. Al chav u!. For a start ave not got a race car. Ave got a fucken corsa. Weight transfer ma ring.
And secondly al guarantee a could outdrive u any day ya tit!
James_DT
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20th Apr 05 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Learn to spell and type in English first, fool.
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by Kano
What??? The handling will be better. Lower centre of gravity an all that.
A dnt understand folk like u!!?? The lower the better..... Woooooooooo


Er, no... The suspension was designed to run at a certain ride height to give it good comfortable handling. Lowering it will lower the COM, but what your really trying to do is stiffen the ride up. I mean 70mm is fuck all really, its not going to do shit to the COM, all your going to do is make the handling sloppy, especially if you use Nova springs. A 40mm drop is great for track use, along with a set of alloys with low profily tyres..... You need to know a lot more than GCSE Physics before you start playing about with suspension and chassis design.

P.S. If you want a big drop, use coilovers.
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21st Apr 05 at 00:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



coilovers
Dave A
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21st Apr 05 at 08:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Kano
quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
quote:
Originally posted by Kano
What??? The handling will be better. Lower centre of gravity an all that.
A dnt understand folk like u!!?? The lower the better..... Woooooooooo



you find me a race spec/track use corsa with -70mm suspension.

you wont.

you need a certain amount of movement in your suspension to allow for weight transfer.

obviously you havnt learned to drive a car properly, and have never driven on a track or your a chav

speak to the suspension experts like bilstein, eibach etc,


What the fuk. Al chav u!. For a start ave not got a race car. Ave got a fucken corsa. Weight transfer ma ring.
And secondly al guarantee a could outdrive u any day ya tit!



learn to speak english u tit

i dont understand people like you. you post up a thread in the help forum and ask about suspension
there is only 2 reasons people lower their suspension

1. looks
2. handling

by your replies, lowering the centre of gravity etc........ i assumed you were wanting to improve the handling, so i gave you some good advice, then all you do is start mouthing off.

YOUR CORSA WILL HANDLE SHITE IF YOU LOWER IT -60MM OR MORE.

the only way to lower your car more than 50mm and keep good handling charectaristics is to buy some fully adjustable race coilovers. this allows you to lower the suspension further and adjust other things to compliment the loss in ride height such as camber, bound, rebound ,piston travel etc.....


oh, and by the way you write and your mouthy attitude, you are obviously a chav. and before you start mouthing off saying "al guarantee a could outdrive u any day ya tit!" i would think not

i spent 3 years building and racing track spec super 1600 fiestas

oh and btw, good driving skills isnt wheelspinning in front of the little girlies at your local mcdonalds carpark
corsa_boi
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21st Apr 05 at 08:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My corsa doesn't handle shit and ive lowered mine 60mm, infact i haven't been in a corsa that handles better than mine,so far which i am pleased about.
i suppose it may depend on what kit you use and definatly what tyres you are using. Kano-if you want to go lower than you are then do it, its your car and you do what you want, but listen to the advice. Theres no need to start arguing over a thread about lowering, maybe if someone said my cars better than your car or my dads harder than your dad or maybe not


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