BabyBlade
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everytime i start the car up i can hear water flowing behind the headunit or around that kind of area.
Its always on start up and normaly does it when the engines cold.
My car also overheated last sunday.
The oil cap also shows the "cum" like stuff resembling air in the oil.
Obviously its something to do with the heater, since its those pipes that go around the area i can hear it.
I can feel no water around the inside of the car.
The system seems to hold its pressure when left alone, but the water is going slowly although very slowly.
i checked the dip stick which seems to be abit high
so could the water be leaking into the oi someway, and the noise i can hear is the water filling up the pipes again? as i say its not using a lot of water at the moment.
but i had to put three bottles of water in when it overheated and dont know why it all went at once!!
plz help 
[Edited on 06-02-2004 by Sethion33]
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LukeGSi
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Do a search dude, cant answer your question but i know this has been posted loads of times!!! 
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DangerousDave16v
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It sounds like your head gasket is going mate,I have a very mild case of whats happening to you, but have lost minimal water, and only ever reaches 100 degrees c. ive noticed it runs a bit hotter when theres less water. I only seem to hear the gargling on very cold mornings. Im gonna get mine pressure tested soon, although I know it is pressurizing well.
Seems to be a commom problem with the ecotec models
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BabyBlade
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mine aint ecotec tho
Could be the head gasket tho
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Adam-D
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yup headgasket
u need a new one
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BabyBlade
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k
was supposed to be saving for a conversion n all!
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MattyB
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head gasket. No doubt. The "mayo" substance is actually an oil+water mixture.
Borrow a few hundred £££ and get the conversion done rather than the head gasket.
Otherwise, get the head gasket done, but at the same time, get a new cam, skimmed head, polished up....the lot
Those 1.4 8v MPis respond very well to head work, and u get to keep low insurance 
Matt
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the_legend_of_yrag
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i have a 1.4 8v and sometimes hear the gushing sound and have the stuff on the water cap!!
Will be getting it pressure tested soon, does it cost to get it done from vaux cant remember cause i had it tested a while ago! Also what gains you looking at for new cam skimmed head and pollished up etc? And how much?
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BabyBlade
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well i'm paying my car off a week today so havnt actually started saving yet but wont take long to save as my outgoings are just over a hundred quid per month
got to do the head gasket now.
am going to get a head gasket and bolts after lunch as i will do it tomorro.
looked through haynes and looks relatively easy just want to run some things by...
1. it is actually the head thats skimmed and not the block??
2. if i dont get it skimmed can i leave the input manifold on??
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mike_1.2LS96
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I have read you can leave the input manifold on since its 8v. I plan to do my gaskets next week so let me know how long it takes if your doing it yourself 
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ainsley_brader
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1, yes its the head not the block
2, yes but itd be a waste of time
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Keith Piper
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head can be skimmed with valves and manifold on. I know this as my mate has an engine reconditioning workshop
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BabyBlade
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have bought the head gasket but didnt have the bolts in stock so have ordered them for monday so will have to be next friday. car should manage temperature doesnt rise about 90 in normal driving
i will post how long it takes when i do it mike
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drunkenfool
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how much did the gasket cost u steve, and where did you get it from? Apparently i have a small leak in mine too.
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BabyBlade
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6 quid from autoparts next to the widemarsh chippy and karlos not sure how much the bolts will be
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the_legend_of_yrag
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also last time my temp went up my radiator ended up blowing up, the whole left hand side (as you look at engine bay) had blown off, ended up being the temp sensor or something wasnt connected right?? 
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BabyBlade
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gutted  never head of a radiator blowing up before! do much damage? (apaart from the radiator  )
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BabyBlade
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quote:
Originally posted by mike_1.2LS96
I have read you can leave the input manifold on since its 8v. I plan to do my gaskets next week so let me know how long it takes if your doing it yourself
took me about 7-8 hours to do it although it got dark towards the end and made it hard
got confused about the timings and couldnt get the camshaft sporcket on although did it in the end.
bought the gasket for 6 quid and the bolts for 11.50
didnt skim the head 
only thing is didnt get exhaust gasket and now cant drive it untill monday when i can get the damn things - oops!!
had smoke coming out the engine bay so thought it was best not to drive it!
another thing is i didnt take the input manifold off which i think made it harder as was cleaning down the head while pushing the input manifold out of the way so was a bit of a bodge 
will see how it goes in the next few months
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