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Munchie
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23rd Mar 04 at 20:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how long did u take to beatmatch?! any tips for me?!
Adam
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23rd Mar 04 at 20:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

too long still trying, not quite right
Adam
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23rd Mar 04 at 20:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

could try getting a visual bpm counter?
Nismo
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23rd Mar 04 at 20:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

take ages , still find certain speeds well hard ,
Munchie
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my cross fader doesnt work on me mixer!!!! its a numark mixer?! is there a switch to turn it off and on etc?!
Nismo
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some there are kill switches to disable
Dom
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23rd Mar 04 at 21:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get a replacment you sad bastard
and look up some tutorials for beatmatching

although im expecting some live sets soo mate on Munchie FM
GREG 1
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23rd Mar 04 at 21:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well.... it does depend on how much of a rhythm you have, its like asking someone how long it take you to walk etc

Everyone is different

It took me quite a while to do and wanted to give up but hard work and dedication got me there in the end... i can now mix anything and in time
transca
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

about 4 weeks to get the basics. try using 2 copies of the same record. and it helps if you know how music works, ie 4 beats in a bar etc. depends on the music tho, trance is pretty easy but hardcore is quite difficult cos its so quick.
GREG 1
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quote:
Originally posted by transca
about 4 weeks to get the basics. try using 2 copies of the same record. and it helps if you know how music works, ie 4 beats in a bar etc. depends on the music tho, trance is pretty easy but hardcore is quite difficult cos its so quick.


wait till you try RnB / Hip Hop then
Mattb
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
could try getting a visual bpm counter?


thats cheating...........

i may hook my decks up and have a bash actually not had a go since new years...
thunda
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yea true, its all about rhythim. did'nt take me long but i was at it all the time. once u get the pitch you'll get better and better.

sounds like im talkin about sex
Mattb
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quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
quote:
Originally posted by transca
about 4 weeks to get the basics. try using 2 copies of the same record. and it helps if you know how music works, ie 4 beats in a bar etc. depends on the music tho, trance is pretty easy but hardcore is quite difficult cos its so quick.


wait till you try RnB / Hip Hop then


can be difficult that, hardcore is pish, and drum and bass even easier
Siberia
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

are iu using vynal or CD's/mp3?

not much u can learn someone about getting beats together its just something u will pick up. then u can work of mixing music right and of course skratching

i learned on a mates set of 1210's then got me own
Adam
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

trance is harder cos you get random pitch changes, spose if you know the tune well you should be ok
Siberia
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

trance is easy dude and its doest change pitch/speed or it would be impossible to mix
Dom
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
trance is harder cos you get random pitch changes, spose if you know the tune well you should be ok


huh? if there isnt any tempo changes and its all stays in the same time signature, then whats the problem? ive yet to hear a trance track that changes its temp, most of them just go from 4/4 to 2/4, thus being half as fast, but still in time

Only thing i can think that will be hard is hip hop and rnb, like greg said, since songs arnt kept to the 4/4 standard and they use lots of offbeat stuff, which 1 makes it hard whilst beat matching and 2 can cause the the final mixed tracks to sound pants (unless you have a pair of well matched songs, then it can work obviously ).

Although, does anyone do any mixing with acapellas? how do you go about getting the tempo of the acapella?

edit: i would also recommend munch that you look into music theory mate. Just the basics about time sigs etc

[Edited on 23-03-2004 by VisibleMan]
Adam
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

main thing is to know the tunes you are playing very well, makes it easier
Munchie
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have a beat thingie on me decks that guides me a bit...i was mixing gay tunes 2gether thats y the beats wernt matching! pics to follow!!!!! OH YES!
Dom
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

another thing munchie, dont use visual ads, it will make you more reliant on the bmp meter and you will be screwed without one Plus there not all that accurate
Munchie
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yer i noticed dey aint dat accurate!!! lol
Mattb
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i had beat match indicators on my old gemini mixer , i put insulating tape over em, .

while we are on the subject.....anyone wanna buy a pair of stanton STR8-100 dd turntables u2u me, hijack over, sorry munch
Mistamist
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Took me about 2 hours! as soon as you can find the first beat in the bar on the first of a 8 bar loop its easy.
I did take drumming lessons for about 6 years before so had good rhythm. nothing really much to it (especially with all your scouse mixed 4/4 rhythms munchman!)
Neil
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23rd Mar 04 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by VisibleMan
Although, does anyone do any mixing with acapellas? how do you go about getting the tempo of the acapella?


To be honest it just seems to come quite naturally. Tho I have been DJ'ing around 5 years now. DJ Hard house, Hardcore, DnB, Gabba (try mixing this.. haha), Hard trance. Anything commercial is absolute pish to mix / beat match.

Takes diff ppl diff amounts of time to learn to beat match, like someone already said it depends on ur natural rhythm as to how quickly you can learn.. just stick at it and practise

 
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