Siberia
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hrmmmm i could be completely wrong here... i was reading the haynes there last week isnt the knock sensor constantly adjusting the ignistion timing anyways? so that the spark is at the optimum moment...
might be talking through my brown though 
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James R
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Camshaft timing is different from ingnition timing.
Verniners let you adjust the relative posiiton of the camshaft to the crank, so that max lift occurs at dead top bottom.
You can't use an exhaust one on a std set up as the engine needs the cams sensor to run the sequential injection off.
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Siberia
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but if your getting omex management u can? yer man who done my dyno run said the AFM and the Cam sensor are binned...?
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broster
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greasemonkey, u cant run verniers with unichip, it still uses the original management but just gets fooled by the unichip.... the cam position sensor is still needed
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Greasemonkey
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im 99% sure you can
then again you might be 99% right, not one to sit on the fence me lol
[Edited on 15-12-2004 by Greasemonkey]
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Siberia
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if ya cant with standard management ya cant with a unchip.... my understanding is that the unichip fools yer standard ecu(need cam sensor for this)....
with omex and the like a new loom is made without the AFM of cam sensor....
unichip seem very limited to me for the money they cost thats y i'm want omex
well thats my understanding...
[Edited on 15-12-2004 by Siberia]
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Greasemonkey
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your right about the omex etc not needing AFM (which is fooking great) and cam sensor, im sure i read somewhere though about the unichip not needing a cam sensor signal, i feel i might just be wrong now
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Greasemonkey
your right about the omex etc not needing AFM (which is fooking great) and cam sensor, im sure i read somewhere though about the unichip not needing a cam sensor signal, i feel i might just be wrong now
all it does is fool the standard ecu into thinking it needs more fuel etc...... not replacment management so u need all the original sensors.
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Siberia
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have your new horses arrived yet?
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Greasemonkey
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I know its not replacment managment
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Col004
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now your going over my head lads, hahahaha, throw a LET in, its easyer. 
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Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
The main advantage of tuning a 1.6 16 is weight...........
The Disadvantage (when compairing to a 2.0 16v) the 1.6 will never be able to put out the Torque figure of a 2.0 16v
It can - you just need a deep pocket  Mine makes 150lb/ft of torque - more than a standard 2L
Of course, that's when it works...
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by Teddy
The main advantage of tuning a 1.6 16 is weight...........
The Disadvantage (when compairing to a 2.0 16v) the 1.6 will never be able to put out the Torque figure of a 2.0 16v
It can - you just need a deep pocket Mine makes 150lb/ft of torque - more than a standard 2L
Of course, that's when it works...
yeah not by much though Andy
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Col004
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andy.... ive seen your monster at pro-tec in layland. thats a credit to you that is mate. i had a good look round it. very nice. then i got abit annoyed at the owner of pro-tec and left haha
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a_j_mair
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how much is the omex??
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Andy
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yeah - Alan can be a bit of a moody cnut, but overall he knows his stuff. Glad you liked the car. It'll be back on the road by mid-March 
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Col004
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he seemed ok at first cos i was getting him to chip my motor but then he asked me why i was hanging round so i said im waiting for it to go on the rollers, its not alot to ask when your paying 240 quid to want to watch your motor on a set of rollers, and he replyed... you cant stay while we work on it. so i got off with my motor and got it done at well lane and even got a video of it hahaha, good luck with getting it back on the road mate
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