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Gildon
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9th May 05 at 17:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Unsure o0n getting the above or not... how do they work does the bag go where the springs go, and do you still need to get shocks.

Or sod it and get decent coilovers with ride adjustable ....

Any one got any pics or heard any stories ..

Cheers fellas

James
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9th May 05 at 18:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

some one must have them ...
Greg_M
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9th May 05 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

air bags replace both shock and spring
Gildon
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9th May 05 at 18:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok thay worth it.. is the ride affected?...
Sidesport
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9th May 05 at 18:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The ride will be rubbish, its really just for show mate.
Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by Gildon
ok thay worth it.. is the ride affected?...


ride is affected yes, because it can go up and down.

air bags and hydrolics reduce handling imo, but some people will argue

they are just for show
Gildon
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9th May 05 at 18:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

hmmmm so at a later date a 2l wiv airbags would not be the best ride...........lol
loz@sussexcarz.com
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i have a 2ltr corsa on airbags and the ride is fine ...ok the cornering isnt as good as coilovers but its no diffrerent to standard suspension and not much different to uprated 1s

the kit replaces the front strut and spring but the back just replaces the spring,i got my kit from rayvern hydraulics and fitted them myself
Gildon
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9th May 05 at 23:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers fella which kit did u get and how much was it?...
Gildon
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9th May 05 at 23:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

any pics......
cossie_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M
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Originally posted by Gildon
ok thay worth it.. is the ride affected?...


ride is affected yes, because it can go up and down.

air bags and hydrolics reduce handling imo, but some people will argue

they are just for show


lol. seriously, i got a full fluid dispersion hydraulics setup and the ride is no stiffer than a lot of coilovers. is actually quite tight so when car is dropped handling is actually pretty good. had it on my corsa for a year and a half already.
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Originally posted by cossie_corsa
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Originally posted by Greg_M
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Originally posted by Gildon
ok thay worth it.. is the ride affected?...


ride is affected yes, because it can go up and down.

air bags and hydrolics reduce handling imo, but some people will argue

they are just for show


lol. seriously, i got a full fluid dispersion hydraulics setup and the ride is no stiffer than a lot of coilovers. is actually quite tight so when car is dropped handling is actually pretty good. had it on my corsa for a year and a half already.


without sounding rude have you been in a corsa with alot of different coilover setups out of interest?
hitman2k
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10th May 05 at 07:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

AIR RIDE suspention is betta then normally standard suspenstion as is pretty good compared to coils...............
Richie
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10th May 05 at 07:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

DS engineering do fully tailored airbag kits.

They used to be £999 but now they are more expensive http://www.dsengineering.co.uk/airsuspensionkits.php?model=31
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
DS engineering do fully tailored airbag kits.

They used to be £999 but now they are more expensive http://www.dsengineering.co.uk/airsuspensionkits.php?model=31


u will be lucky to get ur car in betore july maybe later they are fully booked
Greg_M
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quote:
Originally posted by cossie_corsa lol. seriously, i got a full fluid dispersion hydraulics setup and the ride is no stiffer than a lot of coilovers. is actually quite tight so when car is dropped handling is actually pretty good. had it on my corsa for a year and a half already.


hydrolic suspension is better yes but no where near as good as a good coilover setup. Hydrolics and air bag suspension are not built to handle well. And dont handle well , yes they may handle average, i.e. not bad.
Richie
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Originally posted by hitman2k
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Originally posted by Richie
DS engineering do fully tailored airbag kits.

They used to be £999 but now they are more expensive http://www.dsengineering.co.uk/airsuspensionkits.php?model=31


u will be lucky to get ur car in betore july maybe later they are fully booked


Fitting can be done by a chimp with these kits!
Gildon
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10th May 05 at 14:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers any one else no of places it to get it from...
hitman2k
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quote:
Originally posted by Richie
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Originally posted by hitman2k
quote:
Originally posted by Richie
DS engineering do fully tailored airbag kits.

They used to be £999 but now they are more expensive http://www.dsengineering.co.uk/airsuspensionkits.php?model=31


u will be lucky to get ur car in betore july maybe later they are fully booked


Fitting can be done by a chimp with these kits!


yes fitting is pretty simple like fitting coilovers
cossie_corsa
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
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Originally posted by cossie_corsa
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Originally posted by Greg_M
quote:
Originally posted by Gildon
ok thay worth it.. is the ride affected?...


ride is affected yes, because it can go up and down.

air bags and hydrolics reduce handling imo, but some people will argue

they are just for show


lol. seriously, i got a full fluid dispersion hydraulics setup and the ride is no stiffer than a lot of coilovers. is actually quite tight so when car is dropped handling is actually pretty good. had it on my corsa for a year and a half already.


without sounding rude have you been in a corsa with alot of different coilover setups out of interest?


my point was not that its better handling than coilovers but to state the fact that the ride is nowhere near as harsh as what its made out to be. bedding the springs in(yes i have springs on this system) took a while and yes, ride was terrible but once they softned they became pretty good. regular hydraulics systems have a poor ride, this i know. there is however a top notch new system on which you have hydraulic rams on each corner, linked to a valve distribution block redirecting the fluid into airbag struts bolted within a steel frame to really soften the ride. speak to rayvern anyone who is interested btw.
Richie
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10th May 05 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There is a normal hydraulic system, and then there is a fluid dispersion system.

A normal system offers little or no suspension at all, if you hit a pothole ur alloy will be pretty fucked.

A fluid despertion system consists of 8 rams in total, 1 under each arch, then 4 in the boot. The 4 in the boot have springs, and they look like this:



You can swap the springs for stiffer/softer ones. Like cossie (my bro) said, there is a new one similar to his system that works with airbags instead of these springs offering a more cushioned ride.

 
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