Ojc
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Rod & Emu at the pink windmill do good engine work.
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danny-corsa
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Originally posted by iceman
Courtenay do the webber alpha kit supply and fit for just over 2k
what is involved? and what sort of power gains can be had from doing it to a C16XE
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Paul_J
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It does make me laugh when people say 'I need to put TB's or Turbo on 1.4 so I can keep cheap insurance'...
If your going to put a turbo on your 1.4 you might as well stick a 2.0 16v in - You'll be in equal shit if anything goes wrong.
Hell while your at it tell them it's a 1.0 12v.
Not necisarily aimed at you - but it does make me laugh.
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stubbsy05
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Surely it would be cheaper to do the C20XE conversion.
Insurance may be more but you can use the money you saved by not going down the 1.4 TB route.
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Skinz
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LM will fit a LET for around 3k
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Fad
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
It does make me laugh when people say 'I need to put TB's or Turbo on 1.4 so I can keep cheap insurance'...
If your going to put a turbo on your 1.4 you might as well stick a 2.0 16v in - You'll be in equal shit if anything goes wrong.
Hell while your at it tell them it's a 1.0 12v.
Not necisarily aimed at you - but it does make me laugh.
Quite agree with that paul...Its the same with the pople who spend thousands on body work to keep insurance down and with the same money they would of insured a better car 
With 3700 you could easily fit a 2ltr and insure it?
Other option is to buy a DIY kit. I think thats around the 1500-2K mark for the Jverney tb's with an Omex ECU which has a base map for DIY installation. Get the head work done on a spare head then get all the head and cams built up and fitted with a heavy duty head gasket and ARP rod bolts. Then get someone like Lee Mitchell to Fit the TB's which would be drivable till you can afford to Map it? This is what I hope to do with mine
There was a Total Vaux a while back that showed you how to fit TB's DIY on a CAv GSi should think the x14/16xe kit should be the same?
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ed
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quote:
Originally posted by danny-corsa
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Originally posted by iceman
Courtenay do the webber alpha kit supply and fit for just over 2k
what is involved? and what sort of power gains can be had from doing it to a C16XE
Didn't think the kit was even available for the 1.6 engine. But on a 2.0 16v the kit is about £2k and comes pre-mapped with etxtensive instructions... It is apparently a truely DIY throttle body kit.
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jr
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i would rather have a 1.4 or 1.6 on tb's than a 2l
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
i would rather have a 1.4 or 1.6 on tb's than a 2l
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Skinz
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
i would rather have a 1.4 or 1.6 on tb's than a 2l
why 
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Black Stallion SRi
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Oh god dont blow that kind of money on shitty corsa, once you get that kind of £££ its time to get a proper car and start moving up the car ladder.
Start looking at MK4 Astras etc much better cars and not that much can get one for £2kish then stick a load of imscher stuff on it with whats left over.
If 2ltr corsas were worth the money its only good to see the look on peoples faces in proper cars cause they usually laugh at us, blowing £3k on a shitty 1.4 is mental
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Skinz
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specially as it wont make it much faster than a 1.6 in standard form
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Skinz
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Originally posted by jr
i would rather have a 1.4 or 1.6 on tb's than a 2l
why
they will be lighter
they will handle better
they will be indivdual, at PVS i had no intrest in the hundreads of xe engined corsa, everyone has one, c16/x14/x16 on tbs are far more imprsive and just better IMO
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jr
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Originally posted by Skinz
specially as it wont make it much faster than a 1.6 in standard form
yes it will, when i had my 136bhp 1.4 without tb's i pissed all over 1.6's
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Skinz
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tbh i dont see the point in doing it to a 1.4, 1.6 seems more sensible, you ploughed all teh cash making it 136bhp, when if you would have done the same to a 1.6 you would have been pushing around 180bhp
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by Black Stallion SRi
Start looking at MK4 Astras etc much better cars
I would not TB a 1.4. it would have to be a 16XE. And if your 1.4 is going to be a daily driver and you want mega power, you are going to be spending shit loads on rebuilds.
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Skinz
tbh i dont see the point in doing it to a 1.4, 1.6 seems more sensible, you ploughed all teh cash making it 136bhp, when if you would have done the same to a 1.6 you would have been pushing around 180bhp
thats why i have a 1.6 now
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jr
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you can reliable run 150bhp on a 14xe, dont see where all there unreliable and engine rebuild storys come from
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Black Stallion SRi
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Cant laugh at a Astra miles better than a corsa been driving one and a vectra about, raping little cars etc is funny doesnt even require effort 
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Cybermonkey
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Originally posted by jr
you can reliable run 150bhp on a 14xe, dont see where all there unreliable and engine rebuild storys come from
i dont understand the unreliable bit, but i know that Andy H's 1.6 needs a rebuild every 2k to keep it sweet. but that is running 204bhp
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Cybermonkey
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or 214
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
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Originally posted by jr
you can reliable run 150bhp on a 14xe, dont see where all there unreliable and engine rebuild storys come from
i dont understand the unreliable bit, but i know that Andy H's 1.6 needs a rebuild every 2k to keep it sweet. but that is running 204bhp
thtas becasue his had SBD valve springs that needed replacing every3k, cars now at swindon race enginering and i think there putting there versions in so that shouldnt be a prob
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Cybermonkey
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aaaaah ok, must cost him a fortune though!
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danny-corsa
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hav thought about TB's but i was'nt sure wheather they would be any good for daily driving beeing as they would nail loadsa fuel etc...
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Cybermonkey
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not true danny, you could get better fuel economy with TB's if they are set-up properly.
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