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broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 08:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
........anyone out there want to discuss the pros and cons of different types of diffs?

ATB
Gripper
Tran X


or do people not know the difference???
timrud_
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3rd Apr 06 at 09:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ask on Mig, people have tried them on there...

Basically the ATB is a different type to the other two (plate) diffs.

ATB needs no maintance, and puts more power depending on what wheel has traction, and is constantly altering where the power is.

Plate diffs work in a different way, and you could drive with only one driveshaft in, or a wheel off the ground.

I got told to buy the ATB, nicer to drive with and zero maintance. The plates will need replacing in other diffs. Plus the only diff that will not bust with over 300lb is a Quaife. Others are not guarenteed (hence why they are not listed for an F28, though they will fit!)

HTH
broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 09:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok, ill do a post on mig..... iv been told the ATB is snatchy tho?
AK
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3rd Apr 06 at 09:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
my Tran-X was on a wet twisty knockhill...

Hopefully get a chance to try it on a dry track this friday
timrud_
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Only had a small drive of a car with an ATB, I can't remember where I've put mine so that is a hinderence to getting it fitted lol

It will turn up soon!

Sure there will be somebody on Mig who has driven them all. Or try on PassionFord, and have a search. Question has been asked loads of times!
Robin
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3rd Apr 06 at 11:04   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
problem with a plate type diff is if you break a driveshaft, you'll be spooned into the nearest wall/cow when the only driven wheel grips, with an ATB, you lose ALL drive, which is far safer
lee mitchell
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3rd Apr 06 at 12:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
atb is quite snaggy. really noticed it in my old car but used to it now so u seem to forget about it till it pulls u round a bend
corb
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aye, i almost missed my exit off a roundabout when i nailed it at it for the first time, was interesting But hardly driven the car with it in properly, so not much experience with it tbh(ATB)
timrud_
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car running ok for you corb?
broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 16:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
im still wondering which one to get, quaife is 470+vat retail....

need to get prices on the others really....
timrud_
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3rd Apr 06 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Broster, you gan get a Quaife diff for £485 delivered
timrud_
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3rd Apr 06 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Others arelike £600 when I priced them up. ATB it!
broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 16:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
best price i got was £497+vat!

tim where is the 485delivered from? were after 2 f15 diffs
timrud_
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broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 16:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
just sent a little message! cheers dude!
corb
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Its back on the road(road legal) as of last Saturday in as much as I can push it into the road and leave it there, legally! but I'm waiting for some essential bits back, should be any day now Then hopefully, yes, will be running ok! Think I still need to go get my fuel pressure regualtor set up.

I'm so excited, I just can't hide it, you know, you know, you know I want you
timrud_
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I remember my car got me so excited once I told my cat I fancied it.
Adam_B
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3rd Apr 06 at 17:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
would you be more likely to snap a driveshaft with a fancy diff?
broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 18:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
to be honest a snapped drive shaft isnt that hard to fix really!
timrud_
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3rd Apr 06 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I've snapped one without a diff. Wasn't the end of the world!
broster
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3rd Apr 06 at 18:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
its not like someone stabbed you in the eye now is it!

what wheres my driveshaft
Lucky B
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4th Apr 06 at 13:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Is the car a daily driver broster?

If so a Quaife would be less hassle and make life easier when you are driving.

If it's not a daily driver a plate LSD would be better suited.

I believe the Gripper's last quite long b4 a service is required, more so than a Tran-X.

I've never found a Quaife to be "snatchy", certainly any plate LSD could be described as such...
broster
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4th Apr 06 at 17:30   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the car is the following:

-daily drive
-track car
-1/4 mile car
-money pit.

got a great price on quaife today so will be going down that route
bradfincham
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4th Apr 06 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
mark - pretty much what lucky has said

Quaiffe atb would be easier for daily use, running costs and wouldnt take long to get used to.

The others are more motorsport/race applications where they need to be rebuilt

race and rally - do a google search there in kent and build all our diffs for the caterhams and also the rush s2000.
There the daddies on gearboxes and rebuilds and maybe able to sort you a deal!
Dave Helium
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4th Apr 06 at 17:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
does any1 know how hard a job a diff is to fit? im realy needing 1 for my golf

 
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