big eck
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2045689,00.html
No idea if its a repost but some of you might have missed it
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blebo
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Dont think many Policeforces with opt for covert cameras again.
Public opinion seems to favour the High Visibilty approach and it sents out a better message
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Paul_J
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At the end they say 'If they decide to paint their camera gray, we want to know why - as we think its a good thing with them being yellow as it slows people for accident hot spot'
Well why fucking change the legislation so they can do anything 
It's going to get beyond a joke, I remember when they used to hide them behind signs or walls or tree's and paint them colours which were hard to see.
Twat's if they go back to doing that again.
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Paul_J
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P.S. that also means they can have the stuff like catseye cameras with no signage of warning.
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Jodi_the_g
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Yes but if you look at it another way, should they warn you they are filming you before you rob a shop or something.
Breaking the law is still breaking the law.
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Ian
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Depends if the law is right. Speed does not kill, inappropriate use of speed kills. The latter however, doesn't make such a good buzz word slogan.
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PaulW
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quote:
Kevin Delaney, the head of road safety at the RAC Foundation, said: “We are concerned that some partnerships will conceal cameras and risk losing the trust of motorists. It makes sense for cameras to be yellow because it slows people down at accident blackspots.”
exactly, if no-one see's them then they might not know of any impending dangers.
yes ok, if there speeding its there own fault if they do get caught or crash out in a black spot, but at least its a warning to help improve safety somewhat, and not just increase the revenue earned.
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Rob B
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it looks like the fun will soon be over 
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Jodi_the_g
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Depends if the law is right. Speed does not kill, inappropriate use of speed kills. The latter however, doesn't make such a good buzz word slogan.
I agree but unforunteny can not pick what laws are right and which are not.
Just have to grit your teeth and tolerate them.
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M6RKK
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at the end of the day they have been made to follow by not to fucking change them when they feel its needed !
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mav
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it's all bollocks
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Filthy
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It always amazed me when i was in the the UK how they had to tell you that there was a speed camera coming up... i mean, thats defeating the purpose. Hammer it till you see a sign, drop the anchour, cruise past camera at legal speed, then hammer it till the next sign. 
Here in SA you wouldnt believe what the coppers get up to to take our pics. We get no warning, the first time u know its there is when a bright flash comes out of a rubbish bin or a bush, no jokes.
Theyve got cameras mounted in bins, back of trucks, BEHIND you on bridges as u go underneath etc etc, keeps us on our toes 
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Adam-D
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its all gay
they have just gone mad round where i live and doing everyone they can for speeding
undercover cars are the favourite now
they pace you as you go to overtake then do you
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Rileysport
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i dont speed... this doesn't affect me 
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Butler
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To be honest, stick to the limit and youve nothing to be worried about
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Rob B
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^^^^
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Sly_SRi
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but if you pass a camera without knowing it then you'll still be speeding...thus still as likely to cause an accident!
only difference is you get a letter through the post a few days later
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Cosmo
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The whole point of cameras is to slow you down in residential and accident black spot areas, so whats the point of them not being visable as they wont be a deterrant in those areas.
Plus, if this happens it will only mean a rise in vehicle cloning where people take the number plates off identical cars so they dont get done for speeding.
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Jodi_the_g
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yes but if you do not know where cameras are will it not encourge you to drive at the speed limit all the time.
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
The whole point of cameras is to slow you down in residential and accident black spot areas, so whats the point of them not being visable as they wont be a deterrant in those areas.
Plus, if this happens it will only mean a rise in vehicle cloning where people take the number plates off identical cars so they dont get done for speeding.
I thought of a good idea, a LCD style number plate connected to a camera detector (non gps (or gps I suppose)) - which actually detects the camera's.
As soon as it knows its about to pass one, it sends a different plate to your LCD number plate - so instead of say S250LPB it becomes S250LPP
or something. or just blurs one of the characters.
then past the camera it resets the LCD screen back to your old plate.
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Jodi_the_g
yes but if you do not know where cameras are will it not encourge you to drive at the speed limit all the time.
it would me as I want my license but their are alot of people out there who would do other less legal things not to get caught.
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Paul_J
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I have no problem with an ameircan style speeding offence scheme.
I.e. you get caught speeding you pay a fine - the higher the speed the bigger the fine, if you get many offences = larger and larger fine etc
That I'd be fine with, though yes it'd still suck to get caught.
The thing that annoys me is this whole points system - where by accident you can risk your license.
this is why I have a gripe with camera's, as you can be travelling along doing 34 in a 30 - as every one else would've been doing on the same road, then just because your not clued up on the area get nicked from a camera behind a sign.
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Corsa E-Tec
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in our town they hide behind bust stops.
you cab just see his yellow jacket.
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