dna23
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Technically after defining drifting no, it can't... it can however slide in style via the Scandinavian Flick which Ash commented on a page or two back (as well as some other techniques)
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by dna23]
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J1M
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Sorry, I should have said "sliding" rather than "drifting".
Jim
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Marc
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Originally posted by J1M
but you appreciate that the car reacted in a manner similar to that of RWD/4WD cars when "drifting" i.e. the car required the driver to apply opposite lock in order to keep the car pointing in the correct direction?
Yes, I agree you exurted a certain amount of skill in the manuover to control the car.
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dhdev
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I say yes you can drift a FWD car.
The car can be maintained in an oversteer orientation and therefore 'drifted'.
this is implemented by use of weight transfer and or excessive rear braking (eg handbrake)
The cars direction and angle of slide is then controlled using the accelerator in combination with steering input. the handbrake can also be used to prolong the slide.
Drifting a FWD car does require different techniques to a RWD car agreed but the end result is the same.
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dhdev
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Some examples of FWD drift cars.
At the bottom of the page Falken's FWD drift Civic
http://www.zigzagasia.com/Default.aspx?ID=198
Has an FF drift video
http://www.drifting2.com/channels/online_videos.php
I have a pic of me drifting my nova but photobucket is down at the mo.
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by dhdev]
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dna23
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This entire argument stems around what people define as drifting - by definition it appears FWD cars can drift but most ppl would prefer to call it controlled oversteer.etc i suppose it's purest's who believe drifting is only for RWD car's
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by dna23]
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M16KE B
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quote:
Originally posted by dna23
This entire argument stems around what people define as drifting
agreed!
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bradfincham
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find a nice flat roundabout,
wait for it to rain
then drive round, throw the car in very violently then lift off the power,
the back will step out, if your good like me  you should be able to go the whole way round with the back end out and just using the throttle to adjust your sterring
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Jason Iles
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FWD Drifting do it properly FFS
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3CorsaMeal
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thats just oversteer ^^^^
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Jason Iles
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I'm going round about sliding tonight in the Audi 
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CorsAsh
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
thats just oversteer ^^^^
No Jim, that's lighting up the rears and sliding the world underneath you, car's not really moving
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drax
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You cannot, drift a FWD Car, you can only ass drag it. Dont be confused.
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CorsAsh
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Lord Drax has spoken. Let the thread be locked herein.
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Example coming up to a right hander: brake, load the weight to the front wheels, flick left then right, back end should be light and step out... wind on opposite lock and with enough momentum you'll carry an oversteer state through the corner. You can keep it neat with throttle and steering adjustments, but actually powering the slide through the corner is RWD territory.
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carvideos/ian/outside.wmv
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Kif
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
Example coming up to a right hander: brake, load the weight to the front wheels, flick left then right, back end should be light and step out... wind on opposite lock and with enough momentum you'll carry an oversteer state through the corner. You can keep it neat with throttle and steering adjustments, but actually powering the slide through the corner is RWD territory.
http://www.corsasport.co.uk/carvideos/ian/outside.wmv
Love that video  
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Marc
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But havn't you just gone into the corner too tight and then you straighten up? 
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Ian
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Gave it some opposite lock on the way in under braking, then yeah, just held on.
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sxi16vjoe
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I love getting the arse end out on a front wheel drive. My Corsa was brilliant for it. The astra was harder had to get out but i managed it
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Rob B
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Look at you with the fogs on eh 
Only joking Cool Vid 
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Chris F
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Trays!
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jr
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http://media.putfile.com/LOMEJORDERAGNOTTIClio-16vby-HOMMYVLQ58
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drax
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Okay think of it like this.
An AWD car, can powerslide. It has 2 LSD's, is using all its wheels to put power to the ground, it slides on all wheels, powersliding due to the grip being reduced.
A FWD car uses the front wheels to steer and for driving the car, it can oversteer and cause the rear of the car to come out past the parralel of the wheels, causing a skid, with loss of traction to the rear wheels, it is not however being driven, its merely being steered in the direction that it is skidding.
A RWD car can be ..
Power-overed, using the power of the engine to enduce loss of traction on the rear wheels whilst maintining steering using the front wheels still gripping, the power can also be adjusted an a constant drift can be made.
Lift off, accelerating and releasing the throttle to shift momentum of the weight of the car to the rear allowing loss of traction, then maintaining the drift with the throttle and rear wheels, steering appropriatly.
and theres many more ways to do it.
its all about controlling and still driving, not pushing your car's grip away from it so you slide.
[Edited on 25-05-2006 by drax]
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