valverguy
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Basicly this is the reason i am changing my snapped rack and track rod end....
The thing is though that the wheel which was hit actualy sticks further out of the arcj by about an inch than the other side.. I was thinking its either stut or arb the turret looks exactly the same as the otherside so no problems there BUT where the stut is located into the turret they actualy seem to be slightly different. Any other ideas what it might be ? B efore i go buy new arb and strut?
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City
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something is bent, car needs jigging
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valverguy
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I really think there is nothing wrong with the chassis or chassis leg. had my mate who is a mechanic check the chassis leg as soon as the accident happened. . . I dont think its fair to straight away assume that the car needs jigging Specialy as its cost me 4K 2 months before some uninsured fucker smashed into it and took off!
[Edited on 31-12-2006 by valverguy]
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Dean_W
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You're right, it isn't.
If the chassis leg is bent, the only thig this will affect is the wheelbase. Unless the bottom arm mounting has moved, which i doubt.
What is the camber like? You may have a bent hub or bottom arm.
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valverguy
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Was thinking the bottom arm may be the culprit.. and i haven't had the camber checked as of yet? I surpose that needs doing at a garage? I also thought it could be the strut or arb?
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Dave A
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I would replace the complete swivel hub, steering rack, lower arm inc the lower balljoint, strut and topmounts, tie bar and antiroll bar.
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valverguy
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I was thinking about doing the whole lot dave LOL I assumed that even if by fixing 1 or maybe 2 of them things that something will probably break within the next few months anyways!
Is it safe to say that getting the arb and a few other bits from the scrap yard would be okay but obviously new or reconditioned parts for the hub ball joint and strut etc etc.. Already got the recon'd rack and new track rod end.
[Edited on 31-12-2006 by valverguy]
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Rick Draper
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quote:
Originally posted by valverguy
I dont think its fair to straight away assume that the car needs jigging Specialy as its cost me 4K 2 months before some uninsured fucker smashed into it and took off!
[Edited on 31-12-2006 by valverguy]
So just cause it cost you £4k 2 month ago it does not need jigging  WTF has that got to do with the price of cheese 
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valverguy
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Didnt say that.. said specialy as its cozt me 4k i dont want to have to stick it on a rig.. due to costs. Try some constructive advice.
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Rick Draper
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I bet it will need jigging. £250 back hander and its on a bracketed jig. So many variables in the corsa front suspension. For someone to look at it and say its straight they are talking fucking bollocks.
Did he measure KPI, caster, camber, ackerman and then triangulate to all the suspension pickup points from either side at the front? No did not think so.
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mattk
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Get told.
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valverguy
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sorry rick i assume then that you were underneath my car and can see it needs to go on a jig i also assume you have measured the kpi,caster,camber etc??..NO??? So you have completly contradicted yourself
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Gregor
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jiggy
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ckallis500
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mate i think rick is stating the obvious. if the wheel is sticking out that far something is obviously no tright, to make sure your best bet would be to put it on a kig (which is what rick is saying) and that way you know if its fine or not!! if the top of the wheel is protruding from the arch about an inch somehting major is wrong, prob bent the strut/hub, but the only way to be sure that its straight is to get the thing on a jig. it might look fone once you have replaced everything but it might never drive properly/straight... chris
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valverguy
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Right.. well if i get this thing on a jig after i have sorted the rack so its at least moveable. You reckon were talking around the 250 mark to have it even checked out?
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Rick Draper
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You shud be able to take it to a alignment specialist and have all the angles measured. Just looking underneath a car you will not be able to tell if anything has moved unless there are crease lines in the chassis itself.
Trust me been here done it.
£250 and we got my sisters corsa jigged. Bracketed jiggs are the best but you have to pay a rental fee for the brackets but it is the more precise way of doing it.
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STEvieXE
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err i have a better idea, why not grab a tape measure and measure the fuckin car first.
wot did u damage in the crash?? has it been repaired??
i would quess it needs a
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Glen
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Does it stick out at the top or at the bottom?
Jack it up and take both front wheels off Look at both side u might be able to see wot is bent
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valverguy
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done the whole take both wheels of and check.. there is nothing a miss .. accept the initial damage of the (rack being snapped , track rod end being damaged, and the alloy wheel being cracked. all on the passenger side) I think if there is damage to the chassis then a tape measure just aint going to cut it. I think jig after i have replaced the strut and arb and hub. Also i think it sticks slightly out more at the top of the wheel. not 100% sure if its any more than the bottom but it looks a good inch or so out compared to the otherside. I will get soem pics up later on when the weather permits guys. cheers anyways!!
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