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Martin_C

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14th Feb 07 at 00:14

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
sorry Andy its just from personal experience as my mate has a CTR and one of the lads were I work has a GSI and they had a race and the GSI could not keep up with it. Granted the CTR did not leave it for dead but the GSI could not gain any ground on it

i must've been seeing things then when mine was pushing along that ctr, twice

whitter45

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14th Feb 07 at 00:16

just personal experience so stand by my claim

If you have experienced the opposite then I respect your claim - not just pulled this out of thin air

Mark330d

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14th Feb 07 at 00:17

gsi vs itr, there isnt anything in it.

Monkey_GSi

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14th Feb 07 at 05:39

my m8s gsi

Wrighty

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14th Feb 07 at 07:49

oh i say.

alli Ronald

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14th Feb 07 at 09:07

quote:
Originally posted by Rob H ther should be no reason why you can't achieve VXR stage 1 figures of 280ish brake, for around £1500 .

optimistic figure, check any of the major tuners and they all quote around 20hp increase for a stage 1 which would mean around 260hp at best. Think you may mean a stage 2 for that cash and estimated HP.

keep the comments coming - im also considering a GSi

Rachel H

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14th Feb 07 at 09:23

Stage 1 220bhp not 260, they are 200bhp as standard.

Jambo

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14th Feb 07 at 09:29

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Originally posted by corsa120
what cause an intercooler gives power, it kools the intake charge into the turbo dont it, which in turn produces power maybe only 10bhp or somat but ........

All depends on a number of variables.

But in general the more effective your cooling and the less restrictive, then you will find you will gain power, thats why people always fit larger/more effective intercoolers.

For e.g my standard C20LET on the corsa had a large forge FMIC, std cally power figure is 204bhp, the corsa made 235bhp with no other mods other than a k&N which probably lost it power!

Its ALWAYS worth making sure your intercooling is effective as it can be, reduces risk of DET, makes car run quicker and more efficiently

whitter45

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14th Feb 07 at 09:32

yes intercooler will improve performance as most aftermarket ones are more effciient dropping inlet temps thus more dense air

Depends on the car setup but some gains will be experienced - on a standard car the gains will be minimal but on a boosted car the turbo's run hotter thus will feel the effects more

Plus its not about outright BHP its the delivery and response which is chnaged when considering after market intercoolers

[Edited on 14-02-2007 by whitter45]

alli Ronald

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14th Feb 07 at 09:40

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel H
Stage 1 220bhp not 260, they are 200bhp as standard.

He was talking about VXR's not GSi's

Rob H

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14th Feb 07 at 09:41

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel H
Stage 1 220bhp not 260, they are 200bhp as standard.

VXR's arent 200 brake standard, Try reading the whole post

.

Yeah it's a bit optimistic, thourgh regal (yeah, i know

) quote 275 Brake for a stage 1 re-map, so if you were upgrading the standard IC to a larger one 280 would be possible, if the map could achieve it in the first place. Like you say though, I think you'd need an exahust and sports cat aswell, but then you've nearly doubled the £1500 to include the exhaust

.

Read somewhere that the 4's have more room in the engine bay (most likely due to the lack of pedestrian impact safety built into the metal work/ front bumper), so cooling isn't as much a problem. Even still, upgrading the intercooler shouldnt have anything but positive effects!

alli Ronald

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14th Feb 07 at 09:42

agreed

Rob H

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14th Feb 07 at 09:55

Interesting link...

http://thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Astra_G_-_GSI.shtml

£3400 for 270 ish brake though

. Supoose that's including fittin ghtough, so not too bad :s

Rachel H

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14th Feb 07 at 10:18

quote:
Originally posted by Rob H

quote:
Originally posted by Rachel H
Stage 1 220bhp not 260, they are 200bhp as standard.

VXR's arent 200 brake standard, Try reading the whole post .

I did read the post and considering I have owned both I think you should hush your mouth.

Fad

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14th Feb 07 at 12:57

Agred unless you have a full exhaust system , sports cat, pre cat and FMIC and VXR tuurbo the max you are going to get is around the 220-230 mark

to get anywhere near 280 you need all of the above and a CS 4 or a Phase 4.

I personally think its all about drivability and wouldnt go above a TMS Stage 2

wilson_sri

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14th Feb 07 at 15:26

Awesome cars the mk4 gsi! I was soo close to buying one untill i see my mk3. I think there brilliant in everyway! Looks, handling, performance and also very comfortable.
Get it bought danny!

Gez G

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14th Feb 07 at 18:10

quote:
Originally posted by Fad
Agred unless you have a full exhaust system , sports cat, pre cat and FMIC and VXR tuurbo the max you are going to get is around the 220-230 mark

to get anywhere near 280 you need all of the above and a CS 4 or a Phase 4.

I personally think its all about drivability and wouldnt go above a TMS Stage 2

Sports cat isnt necessarily needed.
But I agree, stage 1 with some added extras would be sufficient to retain driveability!

DaNnY_LaD

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14th Feb 07 at 18:57

Thanks People

ive seen Good quality IC on ebay goin for a good price...Someone said to me to use a Frontera FMIC as its cheaper and is very good as for fittin that wouldnt be a problem...just the pipes which i can order/get made up...

The 1st think im doin is Coilovers and Athraite(Sp) wheels and a full cat back system and Chav valve....

I just dont want it to be slower that my old Std XE corsa as i will be disapointed...

DaNnY_LaD

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17th Feb 07 at 10:37

Ive Had a Really good think about this and i dont really know what to do...Ive got a van for work which i use mostly but spending £8k on astra and to use it when i go out cruise,shows & shops ect is it really worth it for the amount of use it would get...

I mean i wouldnt even use 4,000 miles a year so payin the insurance and Fianance(sp) back i cant see it being worth while tbh...

What about a Let corsa? i want something i can thrash and have the ultimate fun in?easy to fix ect...

What do you lot think?

mwg

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17th Feb 07 at 10:48

VR6 Golf

DaNnY_LaD

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17th Feb 07 at 10:51

quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
VR6 Golf

Hmmm i never thought of that matt..

What are they like for a non Turbo?

mwg

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17th Feb 07 at 10:52

In a MK2 they are pretty fast.

Not sure what a MK3 is like. Its all about the noise they make! Just thinking they are alot cheaper than an Astra and have a big lovely sounding engine, something a bit different!

DaNnY_LaD

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17th Feb 07 at 10:54

It aint slower than my corsa is it?

Im really stumped on what to get..I cant see the point if im spending 8k on a car il hard use...

mwg

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17th Feb 07 at 10:56

Probably about the same? Not sure.

Could always S/C it

or get a Corrado, now they are nice and faster!

DaNnY_LaD

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17th Feb 07 at 19:26

yeah thats true i suppose...All i want is a car that is Fast and i can have a lot of fun in...

ive even looked at S1 & S2 RS turbos.. As thats the sorta thing i like....Even a GSI/GTE Nova with a Xe in it would do me...

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