RobHayes
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whichever you use, z18xe or x18xe1, you'd need to use the x18xe1 downpipe as it has no cat in it, and then use the original 16xe cat
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Warren G
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he has bought a x18xe1 engine
right so, will use a dbilas inlet for the x18xe1 (inlet sorted)
had alook at one today, they have a EGR port on number 4, like you said
so will have to use a x18xe1 manifold and then use a x16xe down pipe?
or do both have a CAT in the downpipe???
and ECU - this has the body control module built it right? probley better not to use it
[Edited on 27-02-2007 by warren.g]
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Robin
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X18XE1 should be a seperate ECU for the engine and other bits, so it should be fine.
I think the exhaust manifold will be a little bit of trial and error, unless you get an X16XE 4 branch (mild steel), cut the flange off, use the flange from the X18XE1 and enlarge the pipe on cyl4.
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Warren G
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or if the x16xe on fits - wield up the hole in the head
as you said trial and error
need a few opions on the ECU/loom side - not the best at rewiring!
or would a mappable ECU be better?
[Edited on 27-02-2007 by warren.g]
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M303CGO
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quote: Originally posted by warren.g
or if the x16xe on fits - wield up the hole in the head
as you said trial and error
need a few opions on the ECU/loom side - not the best at rewiring!
or would a mappable ECU be better?
[Edited on 27-02-2007 by warren.g]
Really appreciate the foot work your doing warren, Top bloke
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Robin
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You might be lucky and find an X16XE Ecu has all the same wiring, worth a try, and can be remapped for about £500 or so, standalone will cost you twice that.
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M303CGO
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quote: Originally posted by Robin
You might be lucky and find an X16XE Ecu has all the same wiring, worth a try, and can be remapped for about £500 or so, standalone will cost you twice that.
Dont mind paying for standalone just means its gonna be off the rd longer
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Robin
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It would be the better option, yeah.
Speak to Broster on here, he's the man to speak to for decent management for a grand, fitted and mapped.
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Warren G
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just fort - all the water hoses should be compatable with each other, so should be able to use most the old hoses
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RobHayes
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use the x18xe1 manifold and downpipe, and then somehow join the downipie to the rest of the system
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Warren G
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had a look again to day
will need a x18xe1 manifold, but might be able too use a x16xe corsa down pipe, they both have the same downpipe gasket apart number so should be compateable (fingers crossed)
any other problems that i might encurre? ie wiring/water hoses............
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Dave A
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1. the x16xe and x18xe1 manifolds are completely different stud patterns
2. the x16xe ecu wont work with the x18xe1
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Warren G
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but they have the same part number for the down pipe gasket im told??? will double check tomorrow
as for ecu, why can i not use the x16xe ecu and loom, and get a unichip to get it mapped on a rr to suit
after all it COULD be a 1600 bored out to 1800 - same difference really
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Dave A
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airflow meter......
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Rachel H
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I was about to say how would you get around the AFM on the X18XE1 engine.
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Warren G
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you would take a vacfeed and use a MAP sensor using a x16xe ecu
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Robin
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Use C16XE management and remove the EGR from the X18XE1
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Warren G
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thats what i was thinking! - the get a unichip and remapp to suit
and there are egr blanking plates made by vauxhall
[Edited on 28-02-2007 by warren.g]
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Dave A
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as I said on MSN mate, a long, expensive overcomplicated way so solve a non existant problem.
use the x18xe1 ecu and loom.
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