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Im not really bothered to which part of the industry I get into however, I have real experience and a real passion for IT.
I have taught myself, PHP,VB,C# and MySQL and I have alot of experience with Microsoft Windows (Xp,2003,98,2000), I also have networking experiece.
I however do not have any work experience at all or any qualifications, What would be the best way to go about getting into the industry?
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willay
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get a mate to pass on your CV
offer free work experience to a big company and after a few weeks see if they want to hire you
agency
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topshot_2k
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dont bother, too many people in it. Im thinking of quitting it
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SetH
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you are in the same boat as thousands and thousands. so many kids out there that are technically excellent, but no work place experience and this seems to really go agaisnt you atm in this industry.
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Steve
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
dont bother, too many people in it. Im thinking of quitting it
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Aaron
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Sadly, i IT you have to start off at the bottom and work your way up. Unless you are very lucky and get in with the right crowd this is the only way you will get any into IT.
I started off as a £50 a week trainee and within 5 years was the IT Manager. My progression was Trainee Technician --> IT Technician --> Senior IT Technicnan --> IT/Network Manager
As said, experience is the key these days. Employers love pro-active learning, something which you seem to be doing alot of. I did exactly the same, i got a few machines and learnt the ins and outs 2003 server, AD, DNS, IIS etc
Keep up the hard work and you'll get there 
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Aj.]
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Steve
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i hope you arent one of these gays that seems to be incapable of saying the full name of something 
hate talking to clients all they waffle on about is ad this, gpo that, talking in accronyms because they think it makes themselves know what they were talking about.
i remember speaking to some random bint from viglen once who get reffering to ad, she didnt even know what it fuckign stood for
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
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James
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
dont bother, too many people in it. Im thinking of quitting it
I disagree, your obviously in the wrong field.
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Steve
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no the market is definatly saturated, without doubt
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Gavin
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very hard to get in but once you have experience under your belt it's much easiler
pew pew pew pewwwww
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Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i hope you arent one of these gays that seems to be incapable of saying the full name of something
hate talking to clients all they waffle on about is ad this, gpo that, talking in accronyms because they think it makes themselves know what they were talking about.
i remember speaking to some random bint from viglen once who get reffering to ad, she didnt even know what it fuckign stood for
[Edited on 07-03-2007 by Steve]
Are you talking to me then?
1. I'm not a client of yours
2. You dont know me, so why do you even give a shit?
AD, DHCP, DNS, IIS, SMB, CAL, TS , AV, ODBC, NAS, SAN
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James
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Originally posted by Steve
no the market is definatly saturated, without doubt
Yeah, but if you are good at what you do, with good experience for a good company, you will have no trouble getting a good job.
The market is full of people who:
a) Designed a site with geocities site builder and call themselves web designers
b) Fixed their grans computer by upgrading drivers and call themselves support technicians
c) Set up a home network and call themselves network engineers.
That is all.
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Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by topshot_2k
dont bother, too many people in it. Im thinking of quitting it
I disagree, your obviously in the wrong field.
So true, around me there are 100's of Dev jobs up for grabs. More so then support jobs
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Aaron
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James you're a genius 
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kz
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quote:
Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Steve
no the market is definatly saturated, without doubt
Yeah, but if you are good at what you do, with good experience for a good company, you will have no trouble getting a good job.
The market is full of people who:
a) Designed a site with geocities site builder and call themselves web designers
b) Fixed their grans computer by upgrading drivers and call themselves support technicians
c) Set up a home network and call themselves network engineers.
That is all.
this is me 
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James
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What do you do kz?
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John
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I have to agree with james, the market is saturated with people who want to get into 'IT', I hate that word.
Everybody who has a pc with xp thinks they are an expert, this is what the market is saturated with.
There are plenty of jobs in specialist fields.
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Steve
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im talking about general support and helpdesk jobs, installations included, its saturated, the main areas it not saturated are programming languages and network infrastructure
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kz
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What do you do kz?
nothing to do with IT anymore... hopefully get back into it one day! i have IT qualifications but tbh no real experience or knowledge of advanced software. im only good on the hardware side of things really. thinking of taking some evening classes to get me back up to scratch
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willay
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quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
no the market is definatly saturated, without doubt
Yeah, but if you are good at what you do, with good experience for a good company, you will have no trouble getting a good job.
The market is full of people who:
a) Designed a site with geocities site builder and call themselves web designers
b) Fixed their grans computer by upgrading drivers and call themselves support technicians
c) Set up a home network and call themselves network engineers.
That is all.
And cunting computer science students.
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Steve
no the market is definatly saturated, without doubt
Yeah, but if you are good at what you do, with good experience for a good company, you will have no trouble getting a good job.
The market is full of people who:
a) Designed a site with geocities site builder and call themselves web designers
b) Fixed their grans computer by upgrading drivers and call themselves support technicians
c) Set up a home network and call themselves network engineers.
That is all.
And cunting computer science students.
i disagree, i have worked in PCshops when i was 16, went to uni, and have worked for a couple of places setting up their networks - AD, Exchange etc/support/website etc
and although i can do the job i cant affrd to do it for nothing whereas there are so many IT graduates/college leavers who are very knowledgeable but have little experience and are willing to work for very little imo.
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Steve
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i dont think you can learn much from a book imo, i coudlve gone to uni for 3 years and come out with a bit of paper but guarantee would not have been as good as i am now from on the job experience
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Steve
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i dont give a shit if you know what hives make up the master roles in active directory, i dont care if you can read binary, i dont care if you know how many checksum bits are in a terrabyte, you wont ever need to use this in todays pc environment
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topshot_2k
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 i agree steve, experience is everything, but trying to get it is a pain due to the amount of people in the jobs
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willay
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sup sup
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