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Phil
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I'm looking to buy a Corsa B for my wife as I have a company car on the way that will replace our Octavia (see the classifieds )

Previously I've owned a 1.2 8v LS on an L plate, a 1.4 8v GLS also on an L and a 1.4 16v Sport on a R plate.

So its fair to say I'm familiar with the Corsa (I was an active member here nearly 8 years ago)

However, over the years of not owning one I've forgotten the following:

When did the 1.2 16v unit replace the 1.2 8v unit?

Which is considered to be the better engine - the 1.4 8v or the 1.2 16v?

I've driven a 1.0 Agila and found it hopelessly slow - the 1.0 in the corsa is no cheaper to insure than a 1.4 for me so whats the point of it?

I'm looking at a CDX or GLS 5dr for around £1300 MAX. Other than a cambelt change at about 70k, are there any other things I need to look for in particular on a car with 60k+ miles?

I remember my 1.4 blew its head gasket at 25k miles (covered by Network Q warranty though) - is this common?
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The 16v engines replaced the 8v's in 97 - P reg (you can get 8v P regs and 16v P regs!)

For that money wouldnt it be better looking for a sport? All the toys? 1.4 16v engine?
Mark330d
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1.2 16valve engines were not the best, alot of stupid problems with sensors etc.

1.4 8valve is the better engine in my opinion.
All Torque
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I had an 8v p reg

was shite.
deano87
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12v isn't so bad mine has cover 66k miles (I've had it since 59k) and it hasn't put a foot wrong, nothing wrong with the engine, touch wood, so, you just have to be lucky.

I heard that 1.2 16v's also are strange with sensors and fuel economy isn't that great. Neither is it on the 12v if you do a lot of motorway miles.

All that info was probably useless but never mind.
VegasPhil
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You've got the username I wanted


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the 12vs are marginaly worse than the 1.2 8v`s imo, the only plus point to the 1.2 8v is solid reliability
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quote:
Originally posted by mattk
the 12vs are marginaly worse than the 1.2 8v`s imo, the only plus point to the 1.2 8v is solid reliability

But the 12v is quicker on paper

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Still more reliable
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quote:
Originally posted by deano87
12v isn't so bad mine has cover 66k miles (I've had it since 59k) and it hasn't put a foot wrong, nothing wrong with the engine, touch wood, so, you just have to be lucky.

I heard that 1.2 16v's also are strange with sensors and fuel economy isn't that great. Neither is it on the 12v if you do a lot of motorway miles.

All that info was probably useless but never mind.


Ive done 15k in my 16v and not put a foot wrong... just normal stuff that needs changing!

And my fuel economy isn't that bad
I can squeeze 450miles out of a tank before?
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12th Mar 07 at 19:16   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The 1.2 16v only come out later on than the others. It was S reg that they changed.
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Sadly a Sport is out of the question, as in an SXi - My wife needs to have a 5door.

Interesting to read about the 1.2 16v sensor problems etc. Reliability would be a factor for us and I've had the 1.2 8v engine in 2 Novas and a Corsa previously. I assume the 1.4 8v is the same engine with a larger capacity - and hence good reliability?
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They are'nt as bad as people make out, I had a 1.2 16v for about 3 years. It had a Mass Air Flow sensor and an EGR valve. Over 50,000 miles thats not bad going.
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quote:
Originally posted by VegasPhil
You've got the username I wanted


First come, first served I was here 6+ years ago

[Edited on 12-03-2007 by Phil]
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quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
They are'nt as bad as people make out, I had a 1.2 16v for about 3 years. It had a Mass Air Flow sensor and an EGR valve. Over 50,000 miles thats not bad going.


Like i say, i can back that
Phil
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Can you get a lead to connect the car to a laptop to read fault codes? (like you can with VAG cars)
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not on the sxi's or the 1.0's as far as i am aware but on the other the paperclip test works
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The paperclip test does not work on the newer cars at all. But you can buy ODBII readers...
Phil
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What is the paperclip test?

VAG-COM (the VW diagnostic tool) will read fault codes from OBDII vehicles. So I guess I may even be able to use that to run diagnostics on a leter car.

 
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