Nick-S
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Originally posted by jr
vectra's were terrible, by 96 it was all about the a4 
back in the day of 4wd
[Edited on 01-02-2008 by GSi_16v]
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by Robin
I don't know why I even bother watching the "BTCC" these days. 
I don't.
BTCC was worth watching in 1987, 1988 and 1989. Not since. 
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by jr
whittie in those days it was cosworth 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 etc 
...and then BMW 10,11,12,13,14,15
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by Robin
This needs a bump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkoYo-ATLCE&feature=related
Forgot that there was still some nice cars and racing as late as 1990 and '91 after they killed off the big guns.
Group B
Group A
Proper F1
All gone.
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by Robin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOYOBHL0d3M&feature=related
 Odor died in a crash in '95 Robin
I wasn't aware of this until now.
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by Ste L
this is a good vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRz1zQTDNYk
Mansell always was the consumate rain master, even in a piece of FWD rubbish like that.
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by WU-TANG- DAN
who remembers in the early 90s when madza xedos 6's were being entered, maybe the most uninspiring entry ever?
1993. Lovely looking cars, sort of rhubarb and custard colour scheme. Sounded nice too. FWD again though.
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Robin
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Good engines, Miller Cycle supercharged V6s.
I really do miss the BTCC I might even cry.
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SVM 286
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Me too
How does Miller cycle work again Robinio.
*images of Windy's push bike*
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Robin
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Yeah, good question.
It's something to do with the inlet valve still being slightly open when the mixture is compressed, meaning it's more efficient and cleaner, the supercharger force more air in during the compression stroke, meaning it makes more power.
I think 
Obviously the BTCC ones would have had a normal engine, no supercharger.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_cycle
quite complicated
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SVM 286
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I was looking forward to one of your internal combustion gifs 
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Robin
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Can't find one Jim, nobody seems to have bothered with a Miller cycle gif 
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SVM 286
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Inconsiderate fuckers.
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Rob B
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So whats changed ? whats made it rubbish now apart from the lack of manufacteurers
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Robin
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Less power, less grip, less overtaking, less contact, less fun
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Robin
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Really, I think the lack of manufacturers is the key to it's downfall. It was good when you'd got 9 or 10 teams of 2 (and sometimes 3), but now it's SEAT vs Vauxhall, and that's your lot.
All it needs is more cars, with more power, it'd be far far better then.
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Rob B
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less contact and overtaking is the main is it not, cause 1998 to 1992 looks loads slower yet 1998 was exciting to watch
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All Torque
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1997 and 1998 were pretty good, I remember from ITV daytimes on the weekend.
I haven't seen BTCC on tv or years since, although I went to Brand's last year to watch it for real
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Originally posted by Rob B
So whats changed ? whats made it rubbish now apart from the lack of manufacteurers
A field full of awfull cars making approximately half the horsepower and sending it to the wrong wheels in the majority of cases, plus no more Murray Walker.
Australian touring car racing is more like things should be.
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Hamish
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Originally posted by Rob B
So whats changed ? whats made it rubbish now apart from the lack of manufacteurers
Ist whats happening with F1 atm. Costs were spireling out of control so the put a cap on it and gave every team generic parts to make it make even (gearboxs, tyres etc)
Teams either dropped out because they couldnt afford it or didnt like the new rules
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Removing forced induction killed it.
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