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Spurs wont be beating Arsenal this season, you had a good season, we had our worst, and you were still 8 points behind us 
we had a shit start to the season, only time will tell.
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ITS ON MOTHER FUCKER 
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IMO no doubt then 
Just think in one of his many interviews he would of done an Eto and really come out and said he will not be leaving, instead he hasnt said no at all.
He did, shortly after the end of the season, came out and did a press conference and said he was sick of the speculation, he was and will be for many years an Arsenal player, do an archive check on arsenals website
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But even then he kept using phrases like 'at the moment', and 'right now i'm an Arsenal player'.
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But even then he kept using phrases like 'at the moment', and 'right now i'm an Arsenal player'.
exactly, wevery interview he has done recent he hasnt once come out and said no, always giving 'maybe' answers!
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 at some of the comments in here!
We managed 4th and had to be without Henry for the majority of the season through injury and other reasons. We can't pin our title hopes on one man ffs.
He's acting like he's bigger than the club at the moment and nobody has the right to do that. IMO he's past his best and we'd be better off getting rid and getting someone new in with the money.
Realistically I don't think we have a chance in hell this season of mounting a decent title challenge, we'll be 4th or thereabouts and no doubt have some good cup runs.
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We managed 4th and had to be without Henry for the majority of the season through injury and other reasons. We can't pin our title hopes on one man ffs.
You can if he scores 30 gaols a season for you
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but he didn't last season
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and all the badger seems to be doing recently is either getting injured or complaining about shit.
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but he didn't last season
yeah and you finished 4th. When he wasnt injured in past seasons you werent!
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this is the point i'm trying to make Cosmo... even if he were to make a miraculous return to form all of a sudden and bang goals in I still don't think we could compete with the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd.
The main difference being that they dont rely on just one or two men to get their goals, they come from all over the park.
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this is the point i'm trying to make Cosmo... even if he were to make a miraculous return to form all of a sudden and bang goals in I still don't think we could compete with the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd.
The main difference being that they dont rely on just one or two men to get their goals, they come from all over the park.
They both rely on 2 really...Ronaldo and Rooney, Drogba and Lampard!
My point is though that he isnt someone you can easily replace. He scores for fun in the Prem, and will do next season if he stays and is injury free. It is wrong to rely on one man to push you up the league, but its also stupid not to try and build the team around your best guy...which is him!
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Giggs, Vidic, Saha, Scholes all scored important goals for their team.
As did Cole, Terry, Mikel, Essien etc...
I dont think you should ever build a team around a striker. It should come from the middle. Fabregas was inspirational for us last season and in my opinion we should build around him.
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Without Drogba there is no way that Chelsea would have been competing like they did, they would have been scrapping for 2nds with Liverpool/Arsenal. Yes other players score goals for them but you only have to look at the number of times they were in really tight games and Drogba is the one that either got the equaliser which they went on to win i.e. Carling Cup Final - He was their only hope in that match but he made Arsenal Pay. Other games where they did not look like winning Drogba scored late on winners.
ManU I would say were more rounded in the scorers although Ronaldo helped pull the team together.
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there were times when Drogba didn't play that well yet Chelsea still got a result. Like when Essien equalised right at the death against us. They have so many players in their squad who can just pull something out of the hat.
Arsenal have relied on Henry too much imo and it's cost us.
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Originally posted by --Dave--
this is the point i'm trying to make Cosmo... even if he were to make a miraculous return to form all of a sudden and bang goals in I still don't think we could compete with the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd.
The main difference being that they dont rely on just one or two men to get their goals, they come from all over the park.
They both rely on 2 really...Ronaldo and Rooney, Drogba and Lampard!
My point is though that he isnt someone you can easily replace. He scores for fun in the Prem, and will do next season if he stays and is injury free. It is wrong to rely on one man to push you up the league, but its also stupid not to try and build the team around your best guy...which is Fabregas!
agreed
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he wasn't our best guy last season though was he?
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Fabregas?
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I'd say so.
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Henry is your best player. To say otherwise is just maiing excuses as you know he is on his way out.
Its like me saying Gerrard isnt our best player. Or Ronaldo isnt Man Us.
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In all honestly, Henry wasnt our best player last year. We managed without for large periods. Van Persie scored some vital goals for us last season.
I think last season, our best player was Gilberto.
Although yes, Henry when on form/un injured is our best player.
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i couldn't actually give a shit whether he leaves or not, in fact i wish he would just go now as i'm sure we're all sick of the hype and media surrounding the whole situation.
I don't think Henry was our best player last season, that accolade would go to Cesc. That's my view really
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Certainly not last season, I agree on that.
I would say Gilberto myself. Cesc didnt score enough IMO.
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i wouldn't argue with Silva either... both were awesome and you have to remember Cesc is still very young. For someone that young he looked as though he was the most experienced player on the field sometimes.
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