fox2006
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cheers just wana be able 2 play with a few vtr's lol
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Vaux Lad
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VTRs are only about 90hp aint they.
Pretty much what a standard 1.4 16v is.
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by eastend
10% extra bhp without remap, 11bhp
15% extra bhp with remap, 17bhp
No chance.
There's no way I would have got 131bhp from my 1.4, no way at all.
I got 130 from my 1.6 with the same spec, with cams it would have been about 140 at the most....
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eastend
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by eastend
10% extra bhp without remap, 11bhp
15% extra bhp with remap, 17bhp
No chance.
There's no way I would have got 131bhp from my 1.4, no way at all.
I got 130 from my 1.6 with the same spec, with cams it would have been about 140 at the most....
this is what i was told by the man at newman cams!!
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Robin
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I dare say Ken/David hasn't actually owned a fettled X14XE though...
[Edited on 04-08-2007 by Robin]
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Will_Sport
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my 1.4 used to fo 34mpg
my 1.6 does 38mpg on the same daily use, measured by filling, using most the tank, and then seeing how much to brim, a few times.
so that makes up for the tax difference if you clock up a few miles a year!
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by eastend
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by eastend
10% extra bhp without remap, 11bhp
15% extra bhp with remap, 17bhp
No chance.
There's no way I would have got 131bhp from my 1.4, no way at all.
I got 130 from my 1.6 with the same spec, with cams it would have been about 140 at the most....
this is what i was told by the man at newman cams!!
They will tell you that tho, to sell their products...
Its like Kent claim the power gain for their mildest set of 1600 16v cams is 10bhp.... When realistically its probably 1/2
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csweatherston
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by eastend
10% extra bhp without remap, 11bhp
15% extra bhp with remap, 17bhp
No chance.
There's no way I would have got 131bhp from my 1.4, no way at all.
I got 130 from my 1.6 with the same spec, with cams it would have been about 140 at the most....
mine made just short of 150, but ive got extensive head and block work...with pretty much the same spec...
[then again the rollers could have been miles out]
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Warren G
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
I had 116bhp with;
Pipercross Viper
Lexmaul inlet manifold
Janspeed 4 branch exhaust manifold
Sportex de-cat pipe
Blueflame BFO 2.25" exhaust system
Chipwizards remap with 7200rpm rev limit.
All in all, it cost me about £700 (but would be about twice that with brand new bits), and a standard 1.6 was quicker, and cheaper to insure.
Panel filter
Modded airbox
4-2-1 manifold
Decat
2.25"system
103.5bhp
now have a mantzel powerbox, superchip, so should see 120-125bhp now 
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Vaux Lad
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Is a 2.25" system not a bit too large for a 1400?
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Warren G
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probley! 
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Vaux Lad
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Indeed.
A 20xe is 150hp, and only has a 2" system....
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Warren G
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still made good mid range torque with that bore exhaust 98ib/ft i think
power graph 103.5bhp
all that just a exhaust system
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
Is a 2.25" system not a bit too large for a 1400?
Did the job for me.
Someone on here is having a 2.5" system on his 1.6 in the near future...
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Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by eastend
10% extra bhp without remap, 11bhp
15% extra bhp with remap, 17bhp
No chance.
There's no way I would have got 131bhp from my 1.4, no way at all.
I got 130 from my 1.6 with the same spec, with cams it would have been about 140 at the most....
mine made just short of 150, but ive got extensive head and block work...with pretty much the same spec...
[then again the rollers could have been miles out]
Haven't you got a Mantzel, cams and headwork?
Broster made 8bhp more than me with EXACTLY the same spec, plus a worked head, so that, cams and the other type of inlet would see a little more power.
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csweatherston
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yep + a rebore to 1.7 and increased CR
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nellist_sri
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all ive done to my 1.4 (only an 8v sri though) is induction kit, ashley competition exhaust system and decat, and power has gone from 82bhp standard to pushing 90bhp.
to put it into perspective, induction kit cost me a combined £25 (£10 for 'max power' cone filter, about £15ish for samco pipe), decat cost me £30 and ashley cat back system cost me about £150
the cheaper little things like a decent direct cold air feed and de-cat are good ideas. may not make a massive difference, but every little helps 
but like people are saying, would be cheaper and much better to get a 1.6 gsi lump dropped in. thats what im hoping to do, aint gonna spend more cash on my current engine tbh
[Edited on 05-08-2007 by nellist_sri]
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Vaux Lad
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Yep, the de-cat/system would give that type of gain.
Good engines 8v SRi's are.
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FruitBooTeR
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If you droped an 1.6 lump in could the MOT test centre be able to tell or say if u crashed and they inspected you car?
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cpcrampton
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quote:
Originally posted by FruitBooTeR
If you droped an 1.6 lump in could the MOT test centre be able to tell or say if u crashed and they inspected you car?
haha thinking of dodging the dvla? i asked a question like this about my xe and got slaughterd for it.
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FruitBooTeR
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Oh well lol sum ppl drop 2.0xes in and keep it on the hush so droping an engine in that looks identical
Whers the harm in tht 
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cpcrampton
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none.
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cpcrampton
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pass mot no probs my xe pasd as a 1.4 last year. then notified dvla and done everything properly couple weeks later cause i realised i could get bugerd for it.
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