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Ben G
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
erm..mr.wilson,
the topic was actually about tyre profile.
you changed the subject with 'oooh, mine handled best lowered 40mm'.

i was merely commenting on muppets comment of "but low = slow and a shit car to drive"


no, it's about scrubbage when lowered 90mm on 16's
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
ok, a road spec corsa with custom rear turrets and a separate coilover unit 90mm lowered would handle..

on a perfect track surface maybe, not on britains roads
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as with elongated turrets, you can use a longer damper/spring...and actually get some movement out of the rear beam.

yes, ideally IRS is the way forward
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
ok, a road spec corsa with custom rear turrets and a separate coilover unit 90mm lowered would handle..

on a perfect track surface maybe, not on britains roads


steve its pointless. the chavs think low is cool, and the lower the car the cooler it is and are miss lead that becuase touring cars are low that road cars lowered as much will be just as good. its all about the chavs and theyre gangster lean in the dirver seat.

leave them to it. if they think the cars handle well then theyre not really a good driver
csweatherston
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ps. im using 195/40/16 tyres,...as 45's rubbed occasionally
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
as with elongated turrets, you can use a longer damper/spring...and actually get some movement out of the rear beam.

yes, ideally IRS is the way forward


what does more movement help exactly?
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shorter movement will try and move both sides of the fixed beam at the same time.

eg, LH bottoms out, it will compensate by the RH pulling down.

pissy short springs (or your case, coilys wound down) there will be no give in the springs.


a longer moving damper, will allow the beam to twist, almost alike an irs setup.



anyway, ive had enough explaining to you all..
im a chav,
you all know best.

xx
marklawton
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iam down 90mm on 195/45/16 tyres and have no scubbing, scrubs a tiny amount with 2 people in the back, rubs with 5 people in the car

[Edited on 22-08-2007 by marklawton]
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im not a chav, but tbh my car is built more for looks and on coilovers if i want to raise it to give it some then its only changing the rear springs and screwing the front up abit.

its not gonna be a daily driver either so comfort etc doesnt bother me, the reason it has to be low is that imo the gsi kit needs to be decked to carry the look off..
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
shorter movement will try and move both sides of the fixed beam at the same time.

eg, LH bottoms out, it will compensate by the RH pulling down.

pissy short springs (or your case, coilys wound down) there will be no give in the springs.


a longer moving damper, will allow the beam to twist, almost alike an irs setup.



anyway, ive had enough explaining to you all..
im a chav,
you all know best.

xx


again clearly you dont know best, the coilovers were far from would right down on mine.
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so much rubbish posted about suspension in this thread its unreal.

put it this way, I have tried practically every suspension setup available on my car, I hae stuck with 7.5" 225lb rear springs (45mm lower with stripped interior) and adjustable dampers.
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like what dave?...
using corner weights to decide the best rebound rate?
Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
like what dave?...
using corner weights to decide the best rebound rate?


csweatherston
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relating to a pointless help thread i made..
Nic Barnes
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why want car low?i t silly
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i like having a low front - but not a low rear.

i find mine handles best 110mm at the front, 47.56mm at the rear
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
why want car low?i t silly


like i said, its more for looks, the car wont be a daily driver and i can raise it up easily so why not..

mines more or less a standard xe, not 400bhp

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Mines 35 mm all round (on gas shockers) with gav rims on 195/45/15 tyres - Front sits really low, the back doesnt in comparison, and the handling is incredible! The ride is very stiff on bumpy roads but the overall feel/drive more than makes up for it!

Anyone who knows about stuff like this will know what i mean!

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