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Fonz
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25th Jan 08 at 13:20   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
110bhp from 12v!!!!
deano87
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Well, Dblias Flowtech Manifold gives 17bhp gain at £850, then put a Dblias Flowmaster Dynamic Air Induction Kit on it, another 4bhp. That's 75bhp from a 12v without exhaust, TB's or anything
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mmm forgot about this thread, it's abit annoying how it's hard to find official specs though.
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i had a look into this because my c16xe engine has a gold block which i think means it was recalled back into vauxhall due to having under sized pistons fitted. i did find out that the c16xe did produce alot of power when first designed (vauxhalls first attempt at 16v) but they couldnt have the c16xe being better than its rivals, the mk3 astra gsi.
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I thought the C20XE was their first 16V? I dont know why people are so surprised about this sort of output, because 148bhp is the figure it made on a test bench (wasnt using stock injectors and inlet) and how long do you imagine the engines would have lasted with that sort of setup? At a guess I would say no long enough for any of you guys to consider talking about it! Brosters C16XE was running 190bhp not so long ago!
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I emailed lotus engineering department for info so hopefully they will get back!!!
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Originally posted by davey_jack
I thought the C20XE was their first 16V? I dont know why people are so surprised about this sort of output, because 148bhp is the figure it made on a test bench (wasnt using stock injectors and inlet) and how long do you imagine the engines would have lasted with that sort of setup? At a guess I would say no long enough for any of you guys to consider talking about it! Brosters C16XE was running 190bhp not so long ago!


aye well maybe it was quite different, honda pulled it off with there b16b engine 185bhp and very reliable...
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The C20XE wasn't their first 16v either, the slant 4 in the Chevette HS/HSR was

The C16XE was the first SMALL 16v engine.

Broster's was/is an X16XE (sort of), not a C16XE.
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iirc corectly vaxhall didnt design or make the 16v head on the chevette Holbay did all the work

and as for 12v's mine ran something like 82bhp

[Edited on 27-01-2008 by J100RSA]
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aye well maybe it was quite different, honda pulled it off with there b16b engine 185bhp and very reliable...

yeah but thats an engine built to much finer tolerances, and it also has v-tec, and revs to 8500rpm iirc.
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and as for 12v's mine ran something like 82bhp

How much did you spend on it?
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iirc corectly vaxhall didnt design or make the 16v head on the chevette Holbay did all the work


That wouldn't surprise me, but then Cosworth designed the C20XE head, so you could argue that wasn't really Vauxhall's first 16v engine either
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Originally posted by deano87
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Originally posted by J100RSA
and as for 12v's mine ran something like 82bhp

How much did you spend on it?


not that much had full exhaust decat bit of head work etc etc

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