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joes_1.4_16v_sport
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   27th Apr 08 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
As above...

Sounds like grinding metal, somewhat churning in the bottom of the engine...


Suggestions anybody or is it new engine time?

A bearing in the bottom end?

Something to do with the sump?

Oil pump maybe?





[Edited on 27-04-2008 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
sand-eel
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27th Apr 08 at 12:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
what rpm does it happen at?
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27th Apr 08 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand-eel
what rpm does it happen at?


Tick over / running normally...

Ie, churning happens // more at 1500 rpm rather then 900 if you know what i mean...


For example when an engine is "tappety" You rev it + then the tappets make more noise // so its kinda the same principal only lower in the engine + a different noise... (A noise i dont like the sound of too much t.b.h.)


Hard to explain but its always there just louder when you rev it a little
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27th Apr 08 at 12:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
its gonna go bang
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
its gonna go bang




Got a spare bottom end?
Warren G
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will have in a few months... lol

just done drive it until them
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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27th Apr 08 at 13:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ahh crap.

Few months?
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few minuits? cant tell.. will go when it goes... take the sump off and have a looksy
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take sump off look for metal bits in the oil....if so your engine is fooked
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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Theres around 8 bolts right?
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and the exhaust i think
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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27th Apr 08 at 15:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Sorry yeah, manifold too...

Sump plug off + drain the bugger, take sump off... then all will be revealed...


So - re: Sump pan,

If there no bits in it, does that eliminate "insert caption"?



[Edited on 27-04-2008 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
craig_s
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sure it's not the waterpump?
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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Metal on metal sound Craig?

What about the oil pump?
craig_s
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yeh if the water pump goes then the fins inside will be rubbing on the casting of the pump.had it with my gf's tigra not so long ago.without hearing your sound it's hard to say though.
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if it was the oil pump your oil light will show, as there will not be no oil pressure.. ive had 2 oil pumps go in a short space of time...
there will be sh*t loads of metal filing in your oil... if there are then get your wallet out
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Problems sorted - Water pump was goosed.


Fitted // new parts on tonight... Runs like a dream now =

New tenioner + rollers (Full kit)
Cam Belt (Old 1 was starting to split)
Water pump


Not that bad then...



£140




[Edited on 29-04-2008 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
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good to hear
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quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
sure it's not the waterpump?


what a guess glad to hear it's sorted mate
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glad its only a water pump mate... Thank fuck it wasn't serious
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quote:
Originally posted by d128mat
good to hear



quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
sure it's not the waterpump?


what a guess glad to hear it's sorted mate



quote:
Originally posted by Richardhhha
glad its only a water pump mate... Thank fuck it wasn't serious






Thanks 3 for your interest... It lives onwards + upwards


Joe


P.s Craig. Your ears must be amazing to notice that sound from there...




[Edited on 30-04-2008 by joes_1.4_16v_sport]
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And you adam

 
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