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thegsi
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10th Oct 08 at 08:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What's the best dump valve for my LET? I need to upgrade mine from standard and just need some advice. I believe to run an external wastegate, I'll need a different manifold? I'm totally open to all types of blow off valves so give me some hints! Cheers
Minty_Fresh
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10th Oct 08 at 12:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just no lol...

sound so much better if you just run it without nothing on it then you can hear the chatter rather then a tshhhhh that the chav boys have.....

Iain M
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10th Oct 08 at 13:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Chatter kills turbo's, sounds good but is deadly to a turbo.
thegsi
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quote:
Originally posted by Iain M
Chatter kills turbo's, sounds good but is deadly to a turbo.
That was my point of this thread! I found out that its really no good for the turbo so I need to sort a dump value out.
thegsi
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quote:
Originally posted by mk4_boy
just no lol...

sound so much better if you just run it without nothing on it then you can hear the chatter rather then a tshhhhh that the chav boys have.....


But turbos really do benefit from them. Now can anyone actually give me some advice? Come turbo boys!
FruitBooTeR
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10th Oct 08 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Baily twin piston
luke85
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10th Oct 08 at 14:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nothing wrong with the standard dump valve for protecting the turbo, there is one built into the K16.

If you want to go for a different sound like an atmospheric one the a bailys DV26 is fine

Edit to add, what are you talking about external wastegates and different manifolds? I thought this was a thread about fitting a dump valve?

[Edited on 10-10-2008 by luke85]
Minty_Fresh
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how does no dumpvalve kill the turbo? surely they would have a dumpvalve on as standard if it kills the turbo :S
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They do have a dump valve on as standard and not having a dump valve at all will kill your turbo quicker. When you close the throttle without a dump valve the compressor wheel stalls and can even be forced to spin backwards
Iain M
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10th Oct 08 at 15:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

On a turbo car, when you come of the throttle the tb closes, the noise is the air that is in a "pocket" between the now closed tb (obv a blow of valve/dump valve relases this pressure, hence the noise) , and the turbo, the back pressure forces the air back through the turbo, hence the noise not good for your turbo, but sounds


[Edited on 10-10-2008 by Iain M]
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10th Oct 08 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fair enough, learn something new everyday
craig_s
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10th Oct 08 at 16:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got a bailey dv26 twin piston one on mine,sound's ok,i would like to hear the difference between mine and a trumpet type one though.
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10th Oct 08 at 16:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Recirculating one sounds best IMO, had a DV26 on and it annoyed me after a few weeks
andyc1234
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10th Oct 08 at 17:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i got a bailey twin piston one. never heard it go ptssssch yet though still need to fit the engine.
thegsi
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10th Oct 08 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by luke85
Nothing wrong with the standard dump valve for protecting the turbo, there is one built into the K16.

If you want to go for a different sound like an atmospheric one the a bailys DV26 is fine

Edit to add, what are you talking about external wastegates and different manifolds? I thought this was a thread about fitting a dump valve?

[Edited on 10-10-2008 by luke85]
If you read the heading, it says wastegate too. The thread is generally about how i can dump turbo air. Whether it be from a dump valve or wastegate. To those of you who have helped, thanks a lot. I would like more of a whistle high pitch sound psssh than a normal dump valve pssshh! If that makes any sense! How can i achieve that do you think?
luke85
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10th Oct 08 at 18:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I get what your saying but you cant dump "turbo air" with a wastegate, the wastegate sits in the exhaust.

But yes if you want to run an external wastegate you will need a new manifold and a new turbo, assuming you still have the standard k16 one fitted

[Edited on 10-10-2008 by luke85]
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10th Oct 08 at 19:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bailey's DV26
craig_s
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10th Oct 08 at 22:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my dv26 makes quite a high pitch noise,as luke said a waste gate let's exhaust gasses by pass the turbo to control turbo speed/boost pressure.
thegsi
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11th Oct 08 at 17:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by craig_s
my dv26 makes quite a high pitch noise,as luke said a waste gate let's exhaust gasses by pass the turbo to control turbo speed/boost pressure.
Oh right OK I understand. New to turbo's so I think I'm getting confused! Cheers lads for your help.
thegsi
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11th Oct 08 at 17:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also, do I need to buy a blanking kit for the standard dump valve?
andyc1234
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11th Oct 08 at 18:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no just pull the vac pipe of it so it stays closed all the time

 
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