whitter45
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Originally posted by Joe
Colin is definatly getting one.
Well he might do
Or maybe a BMW
but definatly a Focus........
Possibly
or a noble 
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Colin
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Colin is definatly getting one.
Well he might do
Or maybe a BMW
but definatly a Focus........
Possibly
or a noble
Fortunatelly for me all of the above will be in reach in no time at all. Enjoy your company car. 
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whitter45
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quote:
Originally posted by Colin
quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
quote:
Originally posted by Joe
Colin is definatly getting one.
Well he might do
Or maybe a BMW
but definatly a Focus........
Possibly
or a noble
Fortunatelly for me all of the above will be in reach in no time at all. Enjoy your company car.
I do - one of the best cars i have driven on a daily basis
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Colin
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Thats a good thing, you have to keep it for 3 years!
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whitter45
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Originally posted by Colin
Thats a good thing, you have to keep it for 3 years!
yeah and when its lost 50% of its value I pick another one
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Ian
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Originally posted by neil h
Can't help feel it'd be funny if the new RS comes out and it handles like a barge.
I think you're forgetting that during its development, a few people will have already driven it and done what they can to make sure it doesn't.
If the motoring press get hold of it and drive it badly then of course it will show undesirable handling characteristics. What goes in the favour of the RS though is that Clarkson will actually like it, so having said 240bhp is too much he'll now say 300 is just right.
I also disagree that the technology can't move on since it was said that 220bhp in a FWD car is too much. The suspension geometry, power distribution and tyre technology are all different for a start.
[Edited on 22-12-2008 by Ian]
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Ojc
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Clarkson is going to wet his pants the fucking big headed prick.
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MoesTavern
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Originally posted by Ojc
It won't be an issue, people who moan about are are normally inbred wankers.
Are you muppetsport in disguise?
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Ojc
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No.
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alan-g-w
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Originally posted by John
Was that topgear review you are talking about when clarkson mentioned saab not the one he was reviewing the 250bhp fwd 9-5 aero?
Yessir.
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Robin
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Originally posted by BYRON
Ford’s fastest-ever European production car
For an official press release, I find that shocking
The RS200's 0-62 time is potentially faster and the Sierra RS500 has a higher top speed.
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BluKoo
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RS200 0-60 = 6.1
RS500 top speed was about 155 wasn't it?
Both slower than the RS.
[Edited on 22-12-2008 by BluKoo]
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Robin
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RS200E had a much, much lower 0-60 time.
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BluKoo
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Okay, but thats the E. Like 800 bhp or something. TOTALLY different story.
And it wasn't a production car.
So overall, i think the original statement in the official press relase was quite accurate.
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Robin
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The road going E was 250, 300 or 350 depending on which spec you chose from the factory. They only built 20 though, so I suppose it could be disputed as a 'production' car.
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Robbo
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Jo-ho-seph... you think Col is worse than me 
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Joe
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Originally posted by Robbo
Jo-ho-seph... you think Col is worse than me
Yeah you have gone quiet on the new car front for a bit 
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Robbo
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I decided to keep mine so that when the time comes ot go to 2 cars I cna go TVR loony on car numer uno
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Paul_J
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Originally posted by Alex.S
What power did the Astra VXR have through the front wheels when Top Gear slated it?
240
But i have not heard anyone else complain about that bar clarkson
Also Astra VXR had no LSD... therefore all the power would just spin the front wheels = understeer (as spinning wheels = no traction on road).
The Focus RS has a LSD which means it should grip a bit better on front end when accelerating through a corner ... although it will still understeer / spin up the front wheels if driven like a prick.
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alan-g-w
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TBH, if someone with a standard Focus ST went out and spent a bit of time and money making it up to 300bhp (which would be relatively easy I'm guessing), uprated to half decent suspension and whacked on an LSD you wouldn't hear anyone complaining that it's going to be understeering like a bitch, just that it's cool as fuck.
The only way that these debates start in the first place is people taking a journalists' opinion and making it their own IMO.
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Ojc
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Most of the motoring journalists can't drive anyway and are badge snobs wankers
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alan-g-w
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Agreed, If Alfa Romeo for example brought out a similair car it'd be getting bucketfulls of praise.
As said, you just cannot comment without having actually been in the car experiencing it first hand.
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gez bay
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
quote:
Originally posted by BYRON
Ford’s fastest-ever European production car
For an official press release, I find that shocking
The RS200's 0-62 time is potentially faster and the Sierra RS500 has a higher top speed.
keeping in mind that the rs200 had to have a rebuilt everytime you changed ur pants. lol
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