Mike
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by Mike B
It's funny in my car, whenever I'm slowing down I use engine braking, sometimes I heel and toe, other times I don't but either way if there's a few 'yoofs' about my car WILL get looked at 
If I heal and toe they hear a loud rev and look, if I don't they hear it popping and look
Heel and toe does take some getting used to, it's best to try it away from public roads at first First time I tried was on some empty car park in Nottingham in a Suzuki Ignis  'Twas a bit jerky
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by Mike B]
dont see why you need to heel and toe. its only used to match the revs when changeing down fast so engine brakeing dose not lock the driven wheels, ie in a rwd car mid bend, it would be like yancking the handbrake 
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by GSi_16v]
Smoooooooothness generally tbh, instead of bringing the clutch back up slow to try and get it smooth, match the revs bang clutch out, sorted. I do it just in normal driving quite a bit
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harrisp
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Originally posted by Mike B
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Originally posted by harrisp
If you want to save wear on your clutch just change gear without using it.
That's a fun game to play when bored My Sprinter van doesn't like it tho, although I think some of the synchros are on the way out anyway, it really doesn't like going into second when it's cold 
I used to be quite good at it but have lost the knack and it takes a few seconds to do it, and 1 litres aren't great for blipping
My dad is boss at it though, he drove a van 200 miles without a clutch cable.
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Mike
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I've not doen anything like that distance but to prove I wasn't using the clutch once I did drive down quite a long road with my left foot on my dash
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harrisp
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Originally posted by Mike B
I've not doen anything like that distance but to prove I wasn't using the clutch once I did drive down quite a long road with my left foot on my dash
My missus couldn't work it out how I was doing at first a didn't believe I wasn't using the clutch.
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sand-eel
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blipping the throttle is the way forward, saves the clutch and sounds cool.
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by sand-eel]
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Nick-S
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Originally posted by Mike B
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by Mike B
It's funny in my car, whenever I'm slowing down I use engine braking, sometimes I heel and toe, other times I don't but either way if there's a few 'yoofs' about my car WILL get looked at
If I heal and toe they hear a loud rev and look, if I don't they hear it popping and look
Heel and toe does take some getting used to, it's best to try it away from public roads at first First time I tried was on some empty car park in Nottingham in a Suzuki Ignis 'Twas a bit jerky
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by Mike B]
dont see why you need to heel and toe. its only used to match the revs when changeing down fast while brakeing so engine brakeing dose not lock the driven wheels, ie in a rwd car mid bend, it would be like yancking the handbrake
[Edited on 24-02-2009 by GSi_16v]
Smoooooooothness generally tbh, instead of bringing the clutch back up slow to try and get it smooth, match the revs bang clutch out, sorted. I do it just in normal driving quite a bit
makes no sence in town traffic tbh. on track may be....
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antnee
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My instructor also said to use engine braking, brake using pedal, keeping clutch up, only pressing the clutch down when a few 100 revs above tickover.
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Mobby
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Originally posted by Ojc
Best way to drive. I do it all the time, motorbike riders tend to take it from their bike riding to car driving.
i agree, i also feel safer going fast round corners when the car is higher up in the rev rang.
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DaveyLC
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I use engine braking on the motorbike and in manual cars... I drive an auto as a daily driver and the lack of engine braking is the only thing that pisses me off 
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pow
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I match my revs to the "expected" engine speed when I change down a gear, thats for smoothness.
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Kevxx
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Originally posted by Mike B
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Originally posted by harrisp
If you want to save wear on your clutch just change gear without using it.
That's a fun game to play when bored My Sprinter van doesn't like it tho, although I think some of the synchros are on the way out anyway, it really doesn't like going into second when it's cold
is it true at a certain rev range you don't need the clutch to change gear?
my mate says his boss said that, and show'd him, i never knew if it was shit or not.
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pow
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Yeah it is, next time your coming down to a stop, try and "pop" the car out of gear. Don't force it, when it hits that "happy" little range, you'll simply be able to move the gear stick into neutral.
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richc
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Originally posted by pow
Yeah it is, next time your coming down to a stop, try and "pop" the car out of gear. Don't force it, when it hits that "happy" little range, you'll simply be able to move the gear stick into neutral.
Been doing it out of bordem in the caddy today
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