gavin18787
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Nice little suprise in the post today 
Ordered some Mountain bike lights back in August from Australia. Came to £180 for the two sets (mine and my mates) including shipping and australian taxes.
3 Months later I have a letter from TNT stating I owe them £83 for import taxes 
If it was only £20 fair enough but that seems a hell of a percentage.
Anyway to avoid paying or will that just end me in jail 
Drives supercharged Tec with torque  
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Robbo
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throw it away, get away scot free
simples
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Marc
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Should have declared them as second hand.
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VegasPhil
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Originally posted by gavin18787
hell of a percentage.
46% 
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Sam
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Check the following with TNT:
- the declared value and shipping costs are correct on the customs paperwork
- they cleared the consignment using the correct customs codes
I used to work at DHL years ago and they often fucked up by clearing things using the wrong codes, causing the consignee to pay more duty and VAT than they were supposed to - I also worked at a few other courier/carrier companies over the years to know they all don't give a shit about doing their jobs properly.
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Sam
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PS - PMSL @ receiving the letter 3 months later! You are supposed to get notice of charges soon after you receive the goods!
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Tommy L
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Wouldn't worry about it. For all they know, you could of moved house
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Sam
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Originally posted by corsa_tomtom
Wouldn't worry about it. For all they know, you could of moved house
Yeah don't worry about it until you start getting demand letter and then debt collection agencies and threats of court action!  
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Tommy L
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Ok but if he doesn't get any demands or whatever then he could of just not paid. I haven't said ignore it for ever, and if you get demands ignore them too. If it does then pay it! Good try on trying to be a clever dick
It's TNT's fault it has taken them 3 months to follow it up and going on that I don't think they will be arsed about £83 if it comes in one way or another
[Edited on 12-11-2009 by corsa_tomtom]
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John
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It's not TNT who are chasing you for the money, they only want a handling fee (which is also a joke) it's customs who want the money, they will chase you.
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Sam
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Originally posted by John
It's not TNT who are chasing you for the money, they only want a handling fee (which is also a joke) it's customs who want the money, they will chase you.
TNT will have already paid the customs charges to clear the shipment hence why they are wanting the money.
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Sam
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Originally posted by corsa_tomtom
Ok but if he doesn't get any demands or whatever then he could of just not paid. I haven't said ignore it for ever, and if you get demands ignore them too. If it does then pay it! Good try on trying to be a clever dick
It's TNT's fault it has taken them 3 months to follow it up and going on that I don't think they will be arsed about £83 if it comes in one way or another
Of course he's going to get demands if he doesn't pay, companies don't just forget about debt you know!
And yes they will be arsed about £83, I've heard of cases of TNT sueing for much less than that!
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C2RL R
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you are lucky you actually got the goods. i got a letter saying that my goods had arrived at customs and they won't be released until i send them a cheque.
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C2RL R
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what lights did you go for btw?
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ed
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They'll keep sending you letters and eventually the bailiff will drop round.
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corsa987
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i had this with an amp i bought from america, they wanted 54quid, threw letter in the bin, got a second one and then nothing more
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gavin18787
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Bugger
This page has been added to the site since I bought them
http://www.ayup-lights.co.uk/admin-fee-duty-explanation/
Either way by that I should be paying £15 + 2.7%
Drives supercharged Tec with torque
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gavin18787
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quote:
Originally posted by C2RL R
what lights did you go for btw?
Fudging good lights and a bargin until this came through
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chloe16v
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i ordered some thing from ebay and the item wasnt over here, after about a month of "the item isnt in stock" i was refunded my money but STILL ended up with a letter asking for money for import charges for something that never left the seller  anyway i phoned the company (may have been TNT but cant remember) and told them the item was never sent but still got afew more demand letters then nothing after that
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mwg
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My mate bought a set of those lights about a month ago. He got the V4 adventure kit so has the helmet mount ones as well as the handle bar mount ones.
He paid £287.50 like it says on the site and not had a bill from customs... YET. They are quality lights though
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gavin18787
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If he ordered after 1st of november he will be ok as they have updated the site from what I have been reading just now.
If not wait a while for a sting
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mwg
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Nope was in October, maybe end of September when he ordered. He will get a big customs bill cos he bought a set for his Dad too, so nearly £600 worth of lights. Tax will be massive on that
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gavin18787
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yer our bill for the two sets is 15% uk vat + 2.7% import tax + £15 TNT handling
Tempted to tell them to go fish
Also realised that our letter is a final notice so fuck knows where all the ones before have gone
Explains the 3 month silence
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Sam
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Yeah the carrier's 'handling' fees for clearing goods through customs are ridiculous, Parcelforce IIRC charge about £10-ish as well.
As you may or may not know you have to pay any duty and VAT if the item is over £18 in value (new) or £36 if a gift. So if the value is say £19 they'd still charge the same bloody admin fee! 
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