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Aaron
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Right, to cut a long story short...I’m doing a project management assignment for year 2 of Uni. The project for our assignment is decorating a house in a 2 week period.

My project is going to be minimal (simply just stripping wallpaper and paint the walls and ceilings)

We need to write a work breakdown structure...so I’m planning what the stages of the work to paint a room are..and here's what I have so far...

Move furniture out of room
Lay protective covers
Paint ceiling edges
Paint main part of celiling
Strip wall paper
Fill any holes in wall
Sand down wall
Clean wall
Paint wall edges with undercoat
Paint main part of wall with undercoat
Wait for it to dry
Paint wall edges with main colour
Paint main part of wall with main colour

Daft question...but do you think i've missed anything off?
Cosmo
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19th Nov 09 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Would you not strip the wallpaper before painting the ceiling?

Just the one coat of paint?
Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Would you not strip the wallpaper before painting the ceiling?

Just the one coat of paint?


Well, i figured that the wall paper was coming off anyway...so it wouldnt be an issue. You have a point though
Aaron
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Just the one coat of paint?


Good call

Make that 2...
Cosmo
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Personally Id strip the paper first, as you can then paint right over the edge of where the ceiling meets the wall. If you strip after you may damage the new ceiling paint.
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Does the room have skirting boards which need undercoat and gloss?
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Also depending on how indepth you have to go you might remove radiators and mask up switched and plug covers so you don't get paint on them.
Aaron
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Good one.

TBH, i need more stages for my network diagrams...so they're perfect.
smcGSI16V
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Move furniture out of room
Lay protective covers
strip wall paper
wash Walls with a sugar soap mixture
Fill any holes in wall
dec caulking to corners and joints to skirting/architrave etc
Paint ceiling edges
Paint main part of celiling
rub down any associated woodwork
Sand down wall
Clean wall
Paint wall edges with undercoat
Paint main part of wall with undercoat
Wait for it to dry
paint any woodwork etc that requires undercoat
Paint wall edges with main colour
Paint main part of wall with main colour
paint wood work
clean up
Pop
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You might want to add masking wall edges to separate different colours if the room isn't all one colour.
Aaron
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Ace
smcGSI16V
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Can't your decoators cut in then, buy them a sash brush and they will never need masking tape again except skirting-carpet apps.
jungle
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right mate after reading all that you've got it aaaaaaaaall wrong..

being a decorator i will tell you the whole thing top to bottom...


give me a few mins
jungle
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first up in easy steps:

STEP 1:
Move furniture out of room
Lay protective covers
mask off (if needed)

STEP 2:
strip all wall covering off (eg: wallpaper/lining paper)
wash off old paste
leave to dry

STEP 3:
fill cracks,dents,holes in walls and ceiling/fix ames tapes
leave to go off and set
sand walls/ceiling
stainblock damp patches(if needed)

STEP 4:
sand skirtings/facings/doors
dust skirting/facings/doors
caulk skirting/facing edges (only if needed)

STEP 5:
cut in ceiling with required emulsion
roll ceiling with required emulsion
repeat if needed (most ceiling require two coats for a good finish)


<<<have a well earned tea break>>>

STEP 6:
undercoat skirtings/facings/doors (oil based undercoat/waterbased undercoat)

STEP 7:
cut in walls with required emulsion
roll walls with required emulsion
Leave to dry

STEP 8:
gloss/satinwood skirtings/facings/doors

STEP 9: job done.

EXTRAS: if wall papering all walls skip step 7 and a go straight to step 8 then wall paper when gloss/satinwood has dryed.


hope this helps sorry for any spelling mistakes ect

[Edited on 19-11-2009 by jungle]
corsa120
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this is silly ive done a full refurb on my house and i mean gutted it, new skirting/coving wall paper and not once needed to to write a list lol, you can see what needs doin as ur doin it lol
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
this is silly ive done a full refurb on my house and i mean gutted it, new skirting/coving wall paper and not once needed to to write a list lol, you can see what needs doin as ur doin it lol


Have you even read the first post? The lad needs to write it down as part of an assignment.
J da Silva
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
Would you not strip the wallpaper before painting the ceiling?

Just the one coat of paint?


Well, i figured that the wall paper was coming off anyway...so it wouldnt be an issue. You have a point though


Prepare all the room before any paint is applied, if you cut your ceiling in first and strip the paper off after then you'll take some paint away from the ceiling edge where the paper has crept onto it.

If the walls are badly damaged to the point where you could spend allday filling the cracks and defects, just line the whole lot and fill the joints, you can still paint it.
Aaron
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TBH, you've all been very helpful.

We don’t have to demonstrate how well we can decorate a house....we just have to demonstrate how well we can project manage...i.e. perform multiple tasks side by side in order to bring the projects to a successful close as soon as possible.

a_j_mair
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follow jungles post, you want to do all the prep before you go anywhere near it with paint.

prep everything, tidy up and clean it all then paint

neoquip
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quote:
Originally posted by jungle
first up in easy steps:

STEP 1:
Move furniture out of room
Lay protective covers
mask off (if needed)

STEP 2:
strip all wall covering off (eg: wallpaper/lining paper)
wash off old paste
leave to dry

STEP 3:
fill cracks,dents,holes in walls and ceiling/fix ames tapes
leave to go off and set
sand walls/ceiling
stainblock damp patches(if needed)

STEP 4:
sand skirtings/facings/doors
dust skirting/facings/doors
caulk skirting/facing edges (only if needed)

STEP 5:
cut in ceiling with required emulsion
roll ceiling with required emulsion
repeat if needed (most ceiling require two coats for a good finish)


<<<have a well earned tea break>>>

STEP 6:
undercoat skirtings/facings/doors (oil based undercoat/waterbased undercoat)

STEP 7:
cut in walls with required emulsion
roll walls with required emulsion
Leave to dry

STEP 8:
gloss/satinwood skirtings/facings/doors

STEP 9: job done.

EXTRAS: if wall papering all walls skip step 7 and a go straight to step 8 then wall paper when gloss/satinwood has dryed.


hope this helps sorry for any spelling mistakes ect

[Edited on 19-11-2009 by jungle]



the only thing that needs altering round is the painting of skirting/frames/wood work etc, as thats all done last after the walls have had the second coat.

To make a better job it's better to line the walls if you've removed wall paper off them (still need preping though)

Also if you're using eggshell/satin wood (oil/or water bourne) it's self undercoating so you don't use undercoat, you use itself, ie: fosr coat is eggshell and the second coat is eggshell.




Anyways, how did the project turn out.. did you pass?
Aaron
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I got a 78% on the assignment...pretty good
jungle
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did you use our tips like mate?

78% is a good pass is it not

[Edited on 11-04-2010 by jungle]

 
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