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Author Anyone familiar with DNS?
Bart
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Registered: 19th Aug 02
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7th Dec 09 at 17:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im after some info with regard to DNS.

I have a domain name currently hosted with 123 Reg which I would like to move to PAYH (my reseller hosting package).
I would like to ONLY move the hosting and leave everything else where it is.

I've spoken with PAYH support and both 123 Reg support and got conflicting advice.

PAYH Support recommend:

In 123 Reg Control Panel Set:
mydomain.co.uk A 212.56.83.199
www.mydomain.co.uk CNAME mydomain.co.uk
ftp.mydomain.co.uk CNAME mydomain.co.uk

Now, 123 Reg support have recommended to only add the following:
WWW CNAME mydomain.co.uk

Now, earlier on, I had both in and for the first time it all worked (even though these things take up to 24 hours), but now its not working.
I would like to be able to modify this tonight and leave it to propigate knowing full well that ive entered 100% the correct items.

Can anyone shed any light on what should Exactly be in the123 reg control panel, in simple terms?
In addition to the above, there is also:
@ A 194.154.164.82


[Edited on 07-12-2009 by Bart]
Matt L
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7th Dec 09 at 17:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no help but im having the same problems with mine at the moment.
Dom
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7th Dec 09 at 18:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So you used 123reg for the domain registar and hosting, but you now what cancel the hosting (but not the domain) with 123reg and point it at your PAYH host? Or do you want to cancel 123reg and move the domain over to PAYH?

If it's the former, surely you just config your domain to point to the nameservers of your PAYH account then assign it under cPanel?
James_DT
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7th Dec 09 at 19:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You need the A record to point the domain to the IP hosting the website.

mydomain.co.uk A 212.56.83.199
www CNAME mydomain.co.uk
ftp CNAME mydomain.co.uk
jamesw
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7th Dec 09 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do the ISP host any DNS, and are you able to manage it at there end via something like cpanel? I would think so espesh if your a reseller in which case find out the IP of the prim and secondary DNS server and in cpanel choose "change name servers" for primary put ns1.yourdomain.com and secondary ns2.yourdomain.com it will then ask you for both the primary and secondary DNS IP.

Once this has been done the whole lot can be managed from your ISP.

Or if your not bothered about custom NS names just set primary to ns0.payh.co.uk and secondary to ns1.payh.co.uk

[Edited on 07-12-2009 by jamesw]
PaulW
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7th Dec 09 at 19:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A records are the primary resolve. ie, they resolve a domain name to an IP

CNAME are referring records, they refer 1 domain to another, which must in itself have an A-record

James_DT has hit it pretty spot on tbh
Bart
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7th Dec 09 at 21:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thanks guys.
I've done as instructed above (which is as the PAYH support also suggested) but the domain is actually timing out now (not resolving).
Would it help if I screen dump both dns records from both cpanels?
Bart
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7th Dec 09 at 21:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I believe the new host also has the same records, is that normal?
Nismo
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7th Dec 09 at 22:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There will be a propergation period, 8 hours UK ,upto 48 hours rest of the world.
Bart
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8th Dec 09 at 07:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well, after last night, its still timing out
ENB
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8th Dec 09 at 13:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Do an nslookup (in cmd) type:

nslookup mydomain.co.uk

Check the results show the correct IP (the PAYH one) if it does and it's still not resolving, you've got a non DNS issue. If the result of nslookup is not the PAYH IP then it hasn't propagated yet.

You could also check that your site (hosted with PAYH) is configured correctly by entering mydomain.co.uk and the PAYH IP into your hosts file manually.

Have you asked PAYH to configure/have you configured your hosting package to listen for mydomain.co.uk?
Bart
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8th Dec 09 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I sorted the problem, all along the @ record was still pointing at the old host.
Im not sure what the @ Record is, the PAYH support told me to remove this today while the 123 Reg support told me to point this at the new hosts IP.

Once it was re-directed it worked straight away.
Andrew
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8th Dec 09 at 23:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

DNS confusses me although i'm getting better with it.

I've just started transfering my domains from 1and1 and 123reg to Zen. My reasons are because 1and1 sent me a bill for a service i hadn't used and then sent in the debt collectors in the form of a letter.. Sacking them off!! Do like 123 reg but may as well have all my doamins in one place and i know Zen have good cutomer service when i screw something up.
ENB
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10th Dec 09 at 12:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

IN 123-reg the @ symbol simply refers not having a sub domain prefixed to the domain. So it sepecifies simply:

mydomain.co.uk

As opposed to:

www.mydomain.co.uk

 
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