ash-ov-boro
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anyone? ..
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SVM 286
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
Remember its not just the reciever size that matters its the actual amount of air that the compressor can flow that is important.. A bigger receiver takes longer to fill and thus requires a more powerful compressor to speed up the process.
Look around for a second hand hydrovane compressor, they come up on ebay every now and then for a good price, they run almost silent and are perfect for spraying.
I've got a 500litre piston compressor at my workshop but this is what I use at home where space is a premium and noise levels must be kept down to prevent upseting the neighbours, wouldnt want the environment agency coming round while I'm painting 2K 
502 Hydrovane on a 2.5KW motor slapped on a 25litre receiver:
Fills up in 10 seconds.
[Edited on 10-02-2010 by DaveyLC]
 effing brilliant. Is that 240V Davey my old treacle?  X
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ash-ov-boro
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just waiting on a few dvd tutorials from ebay & still looking for books or mag's ive been told haynes do a paintwork & bodywork book so will look into that
so has anyone got any recomendations or any to do & not to do's before i go ahead
davey been looking at the guns mate and still dont know which one to choose for a beginner at a reasonable price 
& SVM i would say its 230v-240v as hes using it at home might be wrong though 
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DaveyLC
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For a good deal on paint products speak to NuAgane ( http://www.body-shop-warehouse.co.uk/ ) always remember you get a much better deal making big orders as the postage for volatile chemicals isnt cheap.
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Originally posted by SVM 286
effing brilliant. Is that 240V Davey my old treacle? X
240v but requires a master socket as it eats 13amp fuses for breakfast
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by ash-ov-boro
davey been looking at the guns mate and still dont know which one to choose for a beginner at a reasonable price
You dont really have much of a choice as your compressor doesnt have a good enough CFM to run most guns.. Stick with small pickup guns to get started, they are actually easier to paint with too you just end up wasting most of the paint.
Spend your money on a decent carbon filtered mask, gunson are good and just get practicing..
When you have got the money invest in a hydrovane and a cheap DA + velcro head then buy a budget gravity gun to get some practice before you spend money on something expensive.
[Edited on 14-02-2010 by DaveyLC]
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ash-ov-boro
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daveyLC your a lifesaver once again mate thanks for the answers will check that paint supplier out just now or in between me sunday dinner 
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DaveyLC
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No probs
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ash-ov-boro
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just been back in touch with the lad off ebay he said the clear coat & plastic primer is R.F.U which means ready for use so do you think it will be any good also do you think the prices are any good ?
got the dvd yesterday & it has learned me quite a bit on prep work .. primering... & basecoat also clear coating,gun setup,mixing,& alot more
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Originally posted by ash-ov-boro
Hello Again..
Been getting a few quotes on paint,primer,lacquer,thinners this is all of the same guy off ebay..
cellulose paint >> 17.95 per litre
plastic primer >> 15.50 per litre
1k clearcoat >> 12.50 per litre
topgloss thinner for the paint >> 10.75
& they discount the postage down to 6.95 for anything under or 25 kilo's in weight
he said.. "you don`t need thinner for the lacquer or the plastic primer they are r.f.u." ..what does he mean r.f.u?
messaged him back as last time he said arden blue doesnt come in cellulose but it comes in a basecoat or something so waiting on the price of that now 
what do use think any good? & has anyone got anymore tips for me going to order a few dvd tutorials off ebay as there only like £2.00 odd got to be worth a look at
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belton
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i got this the other day mate, was doing something at my grandads so decided to just get everything and leave it there
right i have
arden blue paint-its a base paint yes, come out shiny with laquer
2k laquer
hardener
thinners
new un, a small one, cost me 22£, good for painting things like bumpers, mega easy to use
strainers (strain the paint out and better measurements)
mixing cups
i already had primer left around
ill post up some pics of things in the process of being done, not that you really need it
oh btw most places say you need to add 10% thinners to a laquer and hardener mix, add more like 2 percent or it gets very runnny
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DaveyLC
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Best to work out what works the best for you.
Always use an air dry hardener as you dont have an oven, the more you put in the faster it will go off but you end up with shrink back but on the other hand if it takes ages to go off you can end up with a cloudy finish.
I normally go 2:1 paint:thinners then add activator by instinct alone depending on conditions etc. lol
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ash-ov-boro
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thanks belton pics would be great mate with you using 2k have you got an airfed mask? and again thanks davey mate helped me most of the way through this ..
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ash-ov-boro
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Ok found a decant Paint Supplier..
www.auto-paint.co.uk ...<ST HELENS
Basecoat Pearl..
MIXES 50/50 WITH BASECOAT THINNERS AND REQUIRES 2K OR SINGLE PACK LACQUER OVER TOP 1Litre=£24.00 500ML=£13.50
U-POL Plastic Primer..
SUPPLIED READY FOR USE!
Degrease & lightly scotch plastic parts,
Apply two coats primer (15 mins between coats)15 mins after second coat... apply colour.
PLEASE NOTE!...Paint must be two pack or poly basecoat! 1Litre £12.95
Lacquer..
SUPPLIED PRE THINNED READY FOR USE IDEAL FOR BLOW INS 1Litre £10.95
Basecoat Thinners..:
Basecoat thinners 1 Litre £4.95
Delivery Prices:
69p Per Kilo/£2.95 minimum charge
they also do the panel wipe degreaser & tack rags,mixing cups,paint filters,wet&dry ..
i think buying it from here rather than ebay is more reliable ..
there was 2 questions i wanted to ask which was..
The U-POL Plastic Primer Say's ..Paint Must Be 2Pack OR Poly Basecoat would i get away with using the Basecoat Pearl Paint i mentioned above..?
other Question Is..
They Do This 2Pack Lacquer ..
http://auto-paint.co.uk/carpaint/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=4
Does That Mean You Can Get away with just using one of thoose carbon filterd masks instead of an airfed one?
or would i be best of using the single Pack Lacquer
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DaveyLC
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I would seriously recommend using that 1k plastics primer I recommended for painting the black ABS..
Also that UPOL plastic primer might be a areosol if it is the same thing is £2.95 cheaper at halfords.
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belton
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no tbh i just use a 2.99 paintin mask from wickes, one meant for fumes and odours, i know this is terrible but im hardly usiing it really, i dont work in a body shop or anything, you can probably get away with that
cheers
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ash-ov-boro
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DaveyLC The U-POL Plastic Primer comes in a 1 litre tin ready for use would it not be any good for the bumpers? i thought it would have been cause there a decant paint company
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DaveyLC
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The lesonal stuff is tried and tested on abs plastic.. I can't fault it..
Read around for some reviews on the UPOL
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ash-ov-boro
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http://auto-paint.co.uk/carpaint/index.php
have a look on there DaveyLC its under tinned paints then Primers
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ash-ov-boro
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So still dont know if the U-POL Plastic Primer Will work with be going to be spraying a basecoat over the top of it as it says ..
Paint Must Be 2Pack OR Poly Basecoat would i get away with using the Basecoat Paint i mentioned above..?
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ash-ov-boro
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going to be ordering soon so any advice will be great DaveyLC you have helped me alot mate thanking you very much also it comes in a tin the u-pol stuff not an aerosol .. been looking on google & people have used it but has anyone on here? i have emailed the company to let me know how much delivery is going to cost.. will be on the phone today to them to see whats what
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DaveyLC
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Get the Lesonal mate.. Atleast you know you wont end up having to do it all again if the upol reacts. The recycled shitty plastic vauxhall make bumpers from is an arse to key.
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ash-ov-boro
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ok mate will have a think about that as ile have to get paint from there and primer from there so will see the lad on ebay see if he does the paint aswell coz its a fuck about really getting paint & primer from differnt places then thats 2 postage fees instead of one lol ..
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ash-ov-boro
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will i be needing a adhesion promoter?
still searching over google for different primers & which have worked for other people ..
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quote:
Originally posted by ash-ov-boro
Ok found a decant Paint Supplier..
www.auto-paint.co.uk ...<ST HELENS
Basecoat Pearl..
MIXES 50/50 WITH BASECOAT THINNERS AND REQUIRES 2K OR SINGLE PACK LACQUER OVER TOP 1Litre=£24.00 500ML=£13.50
U-POL Plastic Primer..
SUPPLIED READY FOR USE!
I use this place quite a bit, He is a top bloke.
Think i'll be popping in today anyway, Need a bit of paint myself!
Degrease & lightly scotch plastic parts,
Apply two coats primer (15 mins between coats)15 mins after second coat... apply colour.
PLEASE NOTE!...Paint must be two pack or poly basecoat! 1Litre £12.95
Lacquer..
SUPPLIED PRE THINNED READY FOR USE IDEAL FOR BLOW INS 1Litre £10.95
Basecoat Thinners..:
Basecoat thinners 1 Litre £4.95
Delivery Prices:
69p Per Kilo/£2.95 minimum charge
they also do the panel wipe degreaser & tack rags,mixing cups,paint filters,wet&dry ..
i think buying it from here rather than ebay is more reliable ..
there was 2 questions i wanted to ask which was..
The U-POL Plastic Primer Say's ..Paint Must Be 2Pack OR Poly Basecoat would i get away with using the Basecoat Pearl Paint i mentioned above..?
other Question Is..
They Do This 2Pack Lacquer ..
http://auto-paint.co.uk/carpaint/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=4
Does That Mean You Can Get away with just using one of thoose carbon filterd masks instead of an airfed one?
or would i be best of using the single Pack Lacquer
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ash-ov-boro
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have you used the u-pol plastic primer bonney66?
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