John
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It being written down somewhere and it happening in reality are two different things.
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Hammer
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actually hammer you are wrong
it states no where in our constitution that a Roman Catholic cannot be PM
a RC cannot be monarch and that is it
Actually Edd, I am not.
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Edd
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yes you are
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Hammer
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Ok, I'll back up my point by saying there has never been a Catholic Prime Minister. Where is your evidence that it is possible?
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Edd
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7157409.stm
There has never been a Roman Catholic prime minister of Britain, although there is no constitutional barrier to such a move.
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Hammer
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So where am I wrong then? I never once mentioned the consititution. I merely stated a fact and until such times as there is one, then a Roman Catholic can't be Prime Minister.
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Edd
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because a Catholic cannot be the most powerful man in the country.
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I merely stated a fact and until such times as there is one, then a Roman Catholic can't be Prime Minister.
i know its hard for you to be wrong because its me but ffs read your last post you sound mental
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hammer you are wrong
you can have a catholic pm
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It's not impossible, however it dates back through hundreds of years of tradition that the PM can't be Catholic, basically as this would insert a religious division and create a conflict of interests between the PM and reigning monarch.
Given that the modern Royal family has no real powers, it's a largely obsolete tradition in my view.
[Edited on 18-09-2010 by CorsAsh]
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Should the pope not have a Vatican City badge on the back of his car...
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Who said anything about conspiracies? And to suggest that there are no/ were no Catholics in the British Isles in a position of power is ludicrous. Tony Blair ring any bells?
Who suggested there are no Catholics in positions of power?
You've also just backed up my point with Tony Blair, the Prime Minister that waited until he left office to get baptised because a Catholic cannot be the most powerful man in the country.
So, no, Tony Blair doesn't ring any bells 
You suggested that, hence the reply 
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The positions of power in this country, this protestant country, are filled with just that....protestants.
As said, yes a Catholic could in theory be 'the most powerful man in the country'. And just because he wasn't baptised didn't mean that he didn't have the beliefs:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/jun/22/uk.religion1
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...but due to political considerations Tony Blair's conversion to Catholicism has been a long time coming.
He has been attending Catholic mass, often with his family but also occasionally alone, since long before he became prime minister. His wife, Cherie, is a lifelong and practising Catholic, and in accordance with church rules their children have been brought up as Catholics and were sent to church schools
Has been attending Catholic Mass, often alone, since long before he was PM? Children sent to church schools? If I was a practicing protestant and I decide to scrap going to the church and reading the bible, instead going to the Mosque and reading the Qu'ran you could still call me a christian. But it wouldn't be entirely true except from a formal social tag point of view. Starting to ring any bells now?
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Hammer
because a Catholic cannot be the most powerful man in the country.
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Originally posted by Hammer
I merely stated a fact and until such times as there is one, then a Roman Catholic can't be Prime Minister.
i know its hard for you to be wrong because its me but ffs read your last post you sound mental
What are you not understanding here?
My next door neighbours son was the first Catholic head of Oxford Union in history, he has wanted to be Prime Minister since the days I was in primary school with him at Holy Family years ago. From Oxford he has now moved onto practicing law because THERE IS NO WAY A CATHOLIC CAN BE PM.
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Hammer
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Originally posted by alan-g-w
Who said anything about conspiracies? And to suggest that there are no/ were no Catholics in the British Isles in a position of power is ludicrous. Tony Blair ring any bells?
Who suggested there are no Catholics in positions of power?
You've also just backed up my point with Tony Blair, the Prime Minister that waited until he left office to get baptised because a Catholic cannot be the most powerful man in the country.
So, no, Tony Blair doesn't ring any bells
You suggested that, hence the reply
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The positions of power in this country, this protestant country, are filled with just that....protestants.
As said, yes a Catholic could in theory be 'the most powerful man in the country'. And just because he wasn't baptised didn't mean that he didn't have the beliefs:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/jun/22/uk.religion1
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...but due to political considerations Tony Blair's conversion to Catholicism has been a long time coming.
He has been attending Catholic mass, often with his family but also occasionally alone, since long before he became prime minister. His wife, Cherie, is a lifelong and practising Catholic, and in accordance with church rules their children have been brought up as Catholics and were sent to church schools
Has been attending Catholic Mass, often alone, since long before he was PM? Children sent to church schools? If I was a practicing protestant and I decide to scrap going to the church and reading the bible, instead going to the Mosque and reading the Qu'ran you could still call me a christian. But it wouldn't be entirely true except from a formal social tag point of view. Starting to ring any bells now?
Attending mass does not make you a Catholic no matter how skewed your perception of religion is.
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because a Catholic cannot be the most powerful man in the country.
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Originally posted by Hammer
I merely stated a fact and until such times as there is one, then a Roman Catholic can't be Prime Minister.
i know its hard for you to be wrong because its me but ffs read your last post you sound mental
What are you not understanding here?
My next door neighbours son was the first Catholic head of Oxford Union in history, he has wanted to be Prime Minister since the days I was in primary school with him at Holy Family years ago. From Oxford he has now moved onto practicing law because THERE IS NO WAY A CATHOLIC CAN BE PM.
i honestly give up with you
cool story bro
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Hammer
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I didn't expect your underdeveloped mind to understand it tbh. I blame your poor education, should have went to a Catholic school.
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alan-g-w
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Where did I say that?
I couldn't have made what I meant any clearer if I tried, that's why I even gave you a wee example. You think that the day he was officially converted his personality and views on things all of a sudden changed? Never mind me having a skewed perception of religion, it sounds like you've got a skewed perception of reality.
[Edited on 19-09-2010 by alan-g-w]
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Edd
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I didn't expect your underdeveloped mind to understand it tbh. I blame your poor education, should have went to a Catholic school.
you talk shite been pulled up for it
then because you know you fucked up try and pull the down trodden roman catholics cant be prime minister because the big bad protestants wont let them card
simple fact is that a roman catholic can be prime minister COLD HARD FACT
as Alan said its your perception of reality thats skewed probably all the priest abuse taking its toll
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Hammer
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His personality and views on things isn't the issue here, the issue is he couldn't be a Catholic as Prime Minister hence why he had to wait until he left office. He even got his arse booted for receiving communion as a non-Catholic.
You're arguing 2 seperate things.
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Hammer
I didn't expect your underdeveloped mind to understand it tbh. I blame your poor education, should have went to a Catholic school.
you talk shite been pulled up for it
then because you know you fucked up try and pull the down trodden roman catholics cant be prime minister because the big bad protestants wont let them card
simple fact is that a roman catholic can be prime minister COLD HARD FACT
as Alan said its your perception of reality thats skewed probably all the priest abuse taking its toll
I don't talk shite mate, it's against my religion.
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alan-g-w
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His personality and views on things isn't the issue here, the issue is he couldn't be a Catholic as Prime Minister hence why he had to wait until he left office. He even got his arse booted for receiving communion as a non-Catholic.
You're arguing 2 seperate things.
But he could be both PM and Catholic. I know what you're getting at, it's almost a case of they 'can' be a PM on paper but it's very unlikely to happen. But all the same it could literally happen. A fucking Sikh joined the BNP, that's one of the more unlikey things I've ever seen over the PM being Roman Catholic.
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You don't have to be good at anagrams to see that Pope Benedict is an Epic Bent Pedo.
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