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spencer88
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30th Sep 11 at 13:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15120522

WTF!
andy1868
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30th Sep 11 at 13:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

GTF
Russ
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30th Sep 11 at 13:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Without looking. Aren't we the only country to get less money back than we put in?
spencer88
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30th Sep 11 at 13:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Of course we are Russ

It is about the EU thinking people should be automatically entitled to 'a right to reside'
Basically I think meaning that people can them come here and claim benefits straight away.
JaffaTB
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30th Sep 11 at 14:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

fuck that, i've had enough of foreigners coming here thinking we owe them a living
SXi_Tim
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30th Sep 11 at 15:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Because Britain isn't lenient enough with its immigration policy
fazza
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30th Sep 11 at 15:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

what does all this mean?

stopping europeans coming here to live or stopping them coming here and getting benefits?

I agree dont give them benefits but dont have a problem with them coming to work, ive been to spain working for 6 months before and loved it.
spencer88
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30th Sep 11 at 15:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by fazza
what does all this mean?

stopping europeans coming here to live or stopping them coming here and getting benefits?

I agree dont give them benefits but dont have a problem with them coming to work, ive been to spain working for 6 months before and loved it.


Basically it means they cannot get benfits if they have no right to be here.
Neo
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30th Sep 11 at 15:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Basically at the moment you can't just turn up and claim jobseekers, child benefit etc you have to basically comply with "a right to reside" -

The following have a right to reside in the United Kingdom:

•UK nationals
•A ‘qualified person’
•A family member of a ‘qualified person’
•A person who has ceased activity as an employed person
•A workseeker
•A person who has a permanent right of residence
•Person who has leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom
•Persons who have been granted exceptional or discretionary leave or humanitarian protection

But there are other ways you can comply with it

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cbtmanual/cbtm10070.htm

Apparently its against EU law and they have given the UK 2 months to comply.

Essentially, unless we can wriggle out of it, Vlashkleb can bring his family from Poland and claim every benefit going from the government without having to put a single penny back into the economy. Nice
fazza
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30th Sep 11 at 15:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

we cannot go into europe and claim jobseekers and the likes though can we

Eddx14xe
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30th Sep 11 at 15:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Get fed up with this stuff. Also annoys me when i watch Customs UK on pick TV when they are investigating someone who shouldnt be here, they give them a bloody house or flat to live in while there doing it.
Neo
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30th Sep 11 at 15:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd assume we can go to any contry in the EU and claim whatever they have on offer. The more likely thing is they don't offer as many handouts hence why they want to come here

[/ill-informed racism]
andy1868
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30th Sep 11 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

THEY TOOK OUR JERRRRRRRRRRRBS
LeeM
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30th Sep 11 at 15:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i wish this government would grow a fucking backbone
Sunz
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30th Sep 11 at 15:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What do we expect when we're in the EU ?

We can't join it and get the benifits from it then not expect to give european people the same rights as us British would have in any other EU country.

Of course when this will be appled it will be another tick box on the list for the immigrants who plan to come here.

An already over crowded country that struggles to supply decent level or public services and now we are to spend more money that could be for British residents on people who have been here for two seconds and surley once they are allowed to claim for something like JSA, they will then be put on the housing list ? A list that is already something like 1 year minimum for anyone who isn't with a child or has an illness..


I believe the work force is made up of something like 1-2% foreign workers - So now when this benifit system is applied there will be a situation if there isn't already where they are giving out more money in benifits then they are making from taxes etc from foreign workers.
LeeM
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30th Sep 11 at 16:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

as a uk national i didnt think you could claim benefits if your national insurance contributions were low? that definately applies to JSA because one of my friends had that problem
Sunz
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30th Sep 11 at 18:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by LeeM
as a uk national i didnt think you could claim benefits if your national insurance contributions were low? that definately applies to JSA because one of my friends had that problem


Income based JSA I think he can get.
You don't need to have any NIC for that.

 
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