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Generation
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4th Jan 12 at 11:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Can anyone help with above? Do I need to use etch primer? And do the usual method?

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Jed D
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4th Jan 12 at 11:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

etch is a strong gaurentee against rust to be used on bare metal, not as such high temps id imagine.
although it would help
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4th Jan 12 at 11:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Always use etch primer on bare metal. Just needs a light coating.
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4th Jan 12 at 11:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i only just started using etch primer, never knew i needed it before.

just done the etch primer, filler primer, grey primer, then paint and someone then tells me "oh, you need epoxy primer as well to stop rust"

great

What do you think of that ed? i'm deffo not starting again, but might use it on the wings?

don't even know what it is really
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4th Jan 12 at 11:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Better off asking Tom - I only do what he told me back in the day
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4th Jan 12 at 11:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What do you think of that Tom?
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4th Jan 12 at 15:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Don't need any epoxy or shit.

A very light coat of etch. Let that dry. Then just a decent primer and then dry and flat.

Also never get people saying to flat basecoat before lacquer.

To many keyboard painters out there.
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4th Jan 12 at 15:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Also I would reccomend KENT ULTRAFILL primer if you can get it. Grey or black have better build. Not cheap stuff but it has a built in etch so no need for that aswell.
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4th Jan 12 at 15:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

from the pics and from experience i have no idea how you will get a decent finish as there is still loads of blast media imprints and media itself left on what is a relatively soft high silicon alloy

its a by product of sand/shot blastic that you dont get with soda blasting, as your relying on the active media to do the job with soda, not the media just beeing fired into the item at a much higher pressure using friction to remove the paint/finish etc



[Edited on 04-01-2012 by jr]
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the etch stuff i used to use when i worked in that field of work was brite yellow and gaurentee'd for at least 3 years against rust.
we then used high build primer wich i believe is what your calling filler primer yes? Its just the same stuff as normal primer but has less thinners solution in it... flat that down (technique to that) then a normal primer and then water based paint x2 coats and then a drop coat THEN finally lacquer... unless it was the ford tipper council vans we had a contract with. they were high solids, bish bash bosh job done

what exactly are you painting like generation, engine parts?

try u2u'ing daveybee... from the work iv seen hes a cracking painter

[Edited on 04-01-2012 by Jed D]
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4th Jan 12 at 15:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if its the bits that are in gen project thread they wont rust as such as they are alloy

[Edited on 04-01-2012 by jr]
Jed D
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..just if the parts are going upto high temps you'll need the rite paint, cant just think etch will do the job

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4th Jan 12 at 16:04   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Graeme
Don't need any epoxy or shit.

A very light coat of etch. Let that dry. Then just a decent primer and then dry and flat.

Also never get people saying to flat basecoat before lacquer.

To many keyboard painters out there.



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quote:
Originally posted by Graeme
Also I would reccomend KENT ULTRAFILL primer if you can get it. Grey or black have better build. Not cheap stuff but it has a built in etch so no need for that aswell.


Kent is the shit, drys really quick too. Top stuff!! Got loads of it at work, only grey red and white though. I use it all the time
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4th Jan 12 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's a throttle cable bracket a throttle body and a fuel rail.
Not bothered about them having a texture due to hot blasting, just better than manky metal
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4th Jan 12 at 16:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i did a thick coat of etch primer, well two coats of what i would say would be a normal coat
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
the etch stuff i used to use when i worked in that field of work was brite yellow and gaurentee'd for at least 3 years against rust.
we then used high build primer wich i believe is what your calling filler primer yes? Its just the same stuff as normal primer but has less thinners solution in it... flat that down (technique to that) then a normal primer and then water based paint x2 coats and then a drop coat THEN finally lacquer... unless it was the ford tipper council vans we had a contract with. they were high solids, bish bash bosh job done

what exactly are you painting like generation, engine parts?

try u2u'ing daveybee... from the work iv seen hes a cracking painter

[Edited on 04-01-2012 by Jed D]




Aslong as his mate si doesn't do them......rough as fuck..

 
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