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Corsa_Sport21
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13th Jun 13 at 14:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How can you tell its warped rather than pad deposit build up?? You won't see the build up, which would surely give off the warped feel??

What temperature would cast iron need to be at for it to start bending?? Melting point?? Is it even possible to get to that temperature on a car without other components failing i.e fluid boiling up etc??

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They don't need to melt to warp, the just need to heat up unevenly or be of a shape/structure that causes warping as the disk will begin to expand long before it starts to melt/glow.
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
They don't need to melt to warp, the just need to heat up unevenly or be of a shape/structure that causes warping as the disk will begin to expand long before it starts to melt/glow.


NO! steve says it cant happen at all.
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No, Steve read it on the interwebs, there-for it must be true and he must be right

Troll mode..
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Need to link random pictures of supercar wheels to have any credibility tbh. Lack of any real facts is an added bonus.
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Ed China says that they can warp, so as far as I'm concerned - they can warp.




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quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Need to link random pictures of supercar wheels to have any credibility tbh. Lack of any real facts is an added bonus.


Who's put lime in your tea to make you so sour?

Nope, but as Steve decided to spam mine, i mearly proved his written statement was incorrect. You must have missed the comment marked in bold
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quote:
Originally posted by Kyle T
Steve says that they can't warp, so as far as I'm concerned - they can warp.


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Saw a pretty standard thread about brakes. Saw it was 5 pages long. Made tea, got a chocolate digestive, knew this was going to be good. Wasnt disappointed, cheers guys

[Edited on 13-06-2013 by JonnyJ]
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Need to link random pictures of supercar wheels to have any credibility tbh. Lack of any real facts is an added bonus.


Who's put lime in your tea to make you so sour?


Erm, what

Believe me, it pains me to side with Steve but in regards to drilling discs he is right.
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Oh yeah, drilling discs is a huge no no.

But my googled images were purely in relation to steves comments that drilled discs were a gimmick. There wasn't any conversation about self drilled discs at that point.

That was all, nothing more. If I've got the wrong end of the stick with regards to your replies, then apologies.

[Edited on 13-06-2013 by Daimo B]
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quote:
Originally posted by Nath
quote:
Originally posted by Kyle T
Steve says that they can't warp, so as far as I'm concerned - they can warp.



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LeeM
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quote:
Originally posted by stan_the_man
I see warped discs at work all the time. We machine them down and theyre good to go again. Thats when the discs minimum thickness comes into play too. Machine too far and theyre fucked.

I drive the car, feel the shudder through either the wheel(front brakes) or pedal (rear brakes), remove the discs and pads, machine the discs, fit new pads and machined discs, drive the car, no shudder.


Could you just not be machining the pad material bedded into the discs?

Like steve says of cause..
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the visual warp in the disc could be seen when i span them up on the lathe. like barnes says of course......
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No, as said, you can see the warp in the disc when its on the lathe.

Steve can facepalm all he wants.

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