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richc
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Saw a 2001 Mercedes ML 270 CDI for just under £3000 with 110k on the clock. Thinking of taking a punt?

Anyone had one?

I know the injectors have issues but anything else? Gearbox issues?

The guy claims he hasnt changed the injectors or had any issues with them

I've trawled forums and seem to get such a vast differences in response.

Some people claiming they have done 250k with no issues at all, and some claim they have done 80k and they are the worse car they have ever owned with electrical problems, injector, gearbox all sorts of stuff.

Thanks,


[Edited on 10-09-2013 by richc]
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Rust of one would put me off enough. Don't know about the engines.
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They are widely regarded as completely shit.
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If you're not sure, ask him when he wants his 2250.
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quote:
Originally posted by John
They are widely regarded as completely shit.


Early ones are yes. Facelift are fine.


However running costs would avbe me running a mile. Fuel is meant to be quite good though
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DaveyLC had one, I liked it apart from the dated interior. E rated it more than the x5
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i bought an ml270 over an x5 but looking back x5 would have been a much better choice. never had any problems with my ml just extremely juicy and expensive in general. cost me 800 for a set of new tyres. was really quite good off road though, never got stuck and even tugged my mates frontera grounded in a swamp out with ease. bose sound system is awesome and it was a comfy car although the interior was cheap feeling (Americans for you)

3k seems fair dependant on spec (you can get x5 dervs for 3-4k). i paid 6.5 for mine 2 years ago. there are some pics in my project thread if u can find it.
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A 3k X5 diesel will be an absolute dog
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pay for wat u get. want a cheap feeling merc with 1 inch panel gaps or a much nicer interior more refined gearbox and something a bit less agriculturey (to drive)
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People said the Grand Cherokee was agricultural to drive that I had. It was not. I don't get peoples need to make a 4x4 handle like a car. Im not saying it is a bad thing, but neither is a nice big soft wallowy 4x4. I like that about them

Personal preference and all
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quote:
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pay for wat u get. want a cheap feeling merc with 1 inch panel gaps or a much nicer interior more refined gearbox and something a bit less agriculturey (to drive)


But what I'm saying is the prices of the cars in the market mean that you'd get an okay ML270 for 3k, perhaps 100k on the clock with leather and a few toys, okay not quite as nice inside but the drive between the two isn't that much difference.

For 3k you'd get a 2001/2 X5 with 150k+ on it, pixels missing on all displays, interior worn because 56 kids have been climbing in and out of it all day long, turbo on the way out and a gearbox waiting to shit itself (ask Whittie).
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I had an 2003 ML270 CDI

Fuel economy was appalling.

It was so bad that when we driove it home from Scotland we actually stopped to check if there was a diesel leak
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I had an ML.. Great car really, I had a 2001, no rust, drove perfectly... But the interiors are dire compare to a Discovery or a X5, much more reliable car though! Gear box and engine are bullet proof too..

quote:
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A 3k X5 diesel will be an absolute dog


^^THIS... If you find an X5 3.0D for £3k there's an idiot involved and its either the person selling it or the one buying it
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
I had an 2003 ML270 CDI

Fuel economy was appalling.




You want to try driving the X5.. The ML270 is massively economical compared to the X5 On a 450 mile round trip I nearly saw 40mpg with the ML.. The X5 would rarely push past 27 even on the motorway and tended to average 23..

[Edited on 12-09-2013 by DaveyLC]
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quote:
Originally posted by lozarus
i bought an ml270 over an x5 but looking back x5 would have been a much better choice. never had any problems with my ml just extremely juicy and expensive in general. cost me 800 for a set of new tyres. was really quite good off road though, never got stuck and even tugged my mates frontera grounded in a swamp out with ease. bose sound system is awesome and it was a comfy car although the interior was cheap feeling (Americans for you)

3k seems fair dependant on spec (you can get x5 dervs for 3-4k). i paid 6.5 for mine 2 years ago. there are some pics in my project thread if u can find it.


The ML is SOO much cheaper to run than the X5...

Set of branded tyres for the X5 = £1200, they are shit on diesel and suffer badly from electrical and mechanical faults..

The ML is nowhere near as refined but its a damn sight more economical and cheaper to run/buy..

As I said a £3-4k X5 diesel will be JUNK..
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
turbo on the way out and a gearbox waiting to shit itself (ask Whittie).


Even BMW quote the life span on the Gearbox (its supposed to be a sealed unit) and turbo @ 100k Most don't realise the crank breather is a service item on the pre2006 so the life span on the turbo tends to be around the 80k mark

I loved the way my X5 drove and the interior was very nice but I'd never have another one... I'd definitely have another ML though.
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Stop it I want an ML
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
I had an 2003 ML270 CDI

Fuel economy was appalling.

It was so bad that when we driove it home from Scotland we actually stopped to check if there was a diesel leak


The engine is noted as being one of the most economical 4x4 powerplants available at the time. I suspect it developed a fault, or you havent driven a 4.0l suv powered by petrol!

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quote:
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Stop it I want an ML


So do I, but take a look at servicing costs and this affects the desire somewhat
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by johnhara1
I had an 2003 ML270 CDI

Fuel economy was appalling.

It was so bad that when we driove it home from Scotland we actually stopped to check if there was a diesel leak


The engine is noted as being one of the most economical 4x4 powerplants available at the time. I suspect it developed a fault, or you havent driven a 4.0l suv powered by petrol!




Maybe it was a typo and he was driving it HOME TO SCOTLAND.. That would explain everything
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PMSL we also suspected a fault

In all fairness i loved driving it.

 
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