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Gary
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18th Sep 14 at 10:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Bought a van mounted cherry picker which is currently registered as light goods.

I've seen many cherry pickers registered as plant no not MOT and also guessing can run dual tanks to run on red while off the road.

Anyone know anything about all this?
mwg
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Will red diesel not leave red dye in the fuel filter so it'll look like it's being run on red diesel even when it's not?
Gary
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18th Sep 14 at 15:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dunno hence why I'm asking
dannymccann
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They only dip tank though, filter is after tank?
alan-g-w
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They check the filter to fight against fake/ second tanks
Gary
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They take emission readings too
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The ones I have seen run off a PTO on the van's engine, so you would have to run it on road diesel. Also the cherry picker part need to be tested pretty often. Which might more strict than a MOT.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/328677/INF85_240614.pdf

Page 3 has the info

For fuel, I believe if it's all registered correctly you just user red diesel, none of the plant we sell/maintain have seperate fuel tanks for white and red


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19th Sep 14 at 07:26   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like it's not possible to be registered as plant and run on the road too? Strange as there are loads of pickers about as plant
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Why do you need a cherry picker?
Gary
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19th Sep 14 at 08:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Why not...
DaveyLC
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Is there a market for this sort of thing, I was only looking at LWB DAF that was parked up locally with a huge cherry picker on it.. It was a rough old bag of shit there was no way it had seen an MOT test centre for a long time! It was stickered up for hire (with operator) too.
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19th Sep 14 at 18:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Gary
Looks like it's not possible to be registered as plant and run on the road too? Strange as there are loads of pickers about as plant


Page 3 if the link above

"What if you want to use your vehicle
on the road?

If at a later date you wish to use your vehicle on the public road you will need to send an explanatory note, and the following to the DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1DZ:
• The current existing Q or QNI plated registration certificate (V5C)
• The first registration fee
• A completed V10 (licence application form)
• Appropriate fee for the tax disc
• Evidence of the vehicle’s revenue (gross) weight
(from the manufacturer)
• Evidence of European type approval (normally a
certificate of conformity) unless your vehicle is
exempt
• Relevant MOT or Goods Vehicle test certificate (if
applicable)
• A V112/V112G (if the vehicle is exempt from MOT
or Goods vehicle testing)
• A current certificate of motor insurance or cover
note for vehicles registered with a Northern
Ireland address
• Evidence of the date of manufacture (only
necessary if you want to gain an age-related registration number)"


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Gary
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21st Sep 14 at 10:10   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I meant at the same time. Ie registered as plant but also be on the road.
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As far as I can tell you register it using the V55/5 form first filled out to show as plant.

Fill out a V10 and a cheque for the tax along with a letter explaining why you want to use it on the road.

There doesn't seem to be a load of info online about it so a call to the DVLA should clear things up


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baza31
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They are registered from new as plant . You can also run it on the road on red but am not sure on distances . U should of bought that 1 off me
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21st Sep 14 at 13:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

At least I think u can I have always run it on road . It only has one tank
Gary
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21st Sep 14 at 14:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yours is fucked. This one is actually roadworthy

Just gonna ring DVLA and see what crack is
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My mates a farmer, registers all his vans as plant so he can run red diesel etc can only drive within 5 miles of Any of his farm land, but that stretches for miles so reaches his house the pub and the local town. But not sure if that's more down to his farm vehicle insurance or it being plant.
mwg
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I'd like to see him justify a trip to the pub on red diesel. Surely you can only use the vehicle for work related trips?
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quote:
Originally posted by mwg
I'd like to see him justify a trip to the pub on red diesel. Surely you can only use the vehicle for work related trips?


He was off to quote for a load of fire wood
mwg
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Wouldn't that mean it'd need to be forestry registered, not agricultural?
Gary
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22nd Sep 14 at 18:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Gazza mind asking him how he goes about the registering?

 
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