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mav
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7th Nov 03 at 19:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just got back from a wee break..Done about 450 miles this week.

The engine management light has started to come on...BUT....
Will come on in intermittent spurts..
On for 5 mins of for a few etc and this is how it goes.

Car is running fine, no adverse effects of the light..

I know I will have to take it to get looked at but just wanting any opinions you guys (or girls) have..

Cheers ppl...

mav
Dav
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7th Nov 03 at 19:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mine started doing this too Comes on for 5mins when I forst start the car, then goes off and is fine for the rest of the journey. Seems to have no effect on the car tho, dunno what it is.
ffls
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   7th Nov 03 at 20:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Paper clip ECU Test:
PaulW
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Used to happen to me a few times a while ago. Ended up being dodgey connection to the alternator
mav
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7th Nov 03 at 20:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

comes on and off all through journey?

Whats the paperclip test?....
ffls
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   7th Nov 03 at 20:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You read the fault codes of the ECU using a paperclip
See topbbuzz.co.uk for instructions, I think
mav
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7th Nov 03 at 20:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

eh ok cheers..............
rallyjohn
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7th Nov 03 at 21:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

better using a fused link in case you bridge the wrong pins
paperclip could=fried ecu
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Mine used to do this, best way is to bite the bullit and get Vauxhall to stick it on the computer.
Cost around 40 quid.

Turned out to be the Idle control valve and EGR on mine! 700 quid to fix

Lets just say i drove it away!!
mav
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Yeah think I will get it into vaux....

Must be something trivial ???????????? as car is still running sweet...

Probably 500 quid worth at vaux......
Dav
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8th Nov 03 at 01:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hey Rhino, new username eh.
Last time my engine management light came on a local garage plugged it in and wanted £300+ just for the part to fix it... Cost me £50 for the part and did it myself.
I'm thinking it might be idle control valve on mine, sittin at idle the rev's bounce just a little bit (like a tiny bit but can hear it with exhaust)
Only thing I can think of coz eveything else seems fine
big eck
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My ICV is well gummed up, the revs are all over the place but the EML dosnt come on in mine.
mav
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light still coming on but NO ill effects on running of car????
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mine used 2 cum on wenu slowed down flikkered n that it turned out 2 be the idol control valve n it cost 100 quid 2 put it on the computer/read the ecu and supll;y and fit a new 1 through a private mechanic wen i went 2 vaux 2 collect the part they sed itsa commin thing 2 go on corsas so they ad loads in stock
mav
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8th Nov 03 at 19:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

MMmmm I wonder..................

Out in car for about 15mins 2nite...Came on after 5 mins for 2 mins then went out...
Mo
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9th Nov 03 at 01:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

mines doing this at the moment, coming on and going off. car it still running sweet though.
Kerry
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9th Nov 03 at 10:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by mav
The engine management light has started to come on...BUT....
Will come on in intermittent spurts..
On for 5 mins of for a few etc and this is how it goes.

Car is running fine, no adverse effects of the light..

I know I will have to take it to get looked at but just wanting any opinions you guys (or girls) have..

Cheers ppl...

mav


that exact same thing happened to me and when i did paperclip test i got the code for egr valve

try removing it and cleanin it up as vx recommend this every 20000 miles

dont go to vx as they will tell u ya need a new one most likely and they are around the £200 mark iirc
Mo
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9th Nov 03 at 11:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

where is the egr valve? i have got a clue where to look!
Kerry
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9th Nov 03 at 11:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

il show u later
Mo
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9th Nov 03 at 11:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok.
mav
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9th Nov 03 at 11:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers Kerry....
Where exactly is it..?????
Big Col
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read the error code using this .. >

http://www.topbuzz1.carenthusiasts.co.uk/info/fault_codes/fault_codes.htm

report back your findings
Kerry
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they have got the code its for egr just need to know where it is on a corsa as i only know on a vectra
Big Col
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i can't see where mav quotes the error code.....
Wolf In Welsh Clothing
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9th Nov 03 at 22:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Vauxhall fault code reading.
Basicly you bridge 2 wires and the ECU light flashes a code as to the problem.
There are 2 type of plugs, a 16 pin OBD2 which is meant to be on all cars after 1998 and a 10 pin ALDL plug which is GM specific and on most vauxhauls up to 1997.
There are also two types of fault codes, 4digit OBD2 codes for all cars after 98 with OBD2 sockets and 2 digit ALDL codes which should be given out by ALDL plug vauxhauls.
This isnt always the case though so ul have to work out which plug and codes ur given urself.

OBD2 96-99 (not meant to work after 99 soz)
To read the codes on cars with 16 pin OBD2 diagnostic plugs you bridge pins numbered 5 and 6 (see pics) with a bit of wire (paperclip, buttie bag tag).




Then turn your ignition on to position 2 where all the electrics such as eleccy windows and radio work, dont start the car though.
The ECU light should flash a sequence.
Each code gets repeated three times.
Those with 16 pin OBD2 plugs should give out 4 digit codes (it may give the old ALDL codes though on pre-97 cars).
Example, 10 flashes, 4 flashes, 10 flashes, 10 flashes, long pause, 10 flashes, 4 flashes, 10 flashes, 10 flashes, long pause, 10 flashes, 4 flashes, 10 flashes, 10 flashes, even longer pause would be code 0400 (10 flashes = 0) which is the code for EGR valve.

A full list of 16 pin OBD2 codes is here Click Me

ALDL plugs need to have pins A and B bridged as shown in the pics




Then turn your ignition on to position 2 where all the electrics such as eleccy windows and radio work, dont start the car though.
The ECU light should flash a sequence.
Each code gets repeated three times.
The first code on ALDL cars is 12
So your fault code list will start and end with 1 flash, 2 flashes, pause, 1 flash, 2 flashes, pause, 1 flash, 2 flashes, even longer pause.

A list of codes is available here Click Me

Hopefully this helps.
Soz if you've got a latter than 99 car or the fault light only flashed on/off and didnt stay on long enough to store the code.
Thanks to Top Buzz, On Board Diagnostics and Andy Whittaker for pics, fault code deffinitions and a plug to wire a switch to for easy fault code reading.

[Edited on 09-11-2003 by Wolf In Welsh Clothing]

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