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Author Anyone else with C20XE prefer not having Powersteering?
corb
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19th Jan 04 at 01:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i got my car back friday night without power steering and drove it until tonight when Lee got it hooked up. Preferred it without PAS, seems like i'm getting more understeer with it. Before it felt like i could feel more of what was going on.
Ian
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19th Jan 04 at 01:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
You don't have less grip of course.

Did you change the rack or just drive the PAS rack with no plumbing?
corb
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19th Jan 04 at 01:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
PAS rack with no plumbing, well, no belt. It was too long and rubbing on one of the engine mounts. Got a shorter belt now.
Ian
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19th Jan 04 at 01:48   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I was going to say don't forget that the ratios is different on the manual rack.

The ideal solution if you're in to steering feel - I looked in to this for mine - is electric assistance. Some of the manufacturers of this type of stuff were displaying at Autosport and had variable adjustment like the girl button (I forget its real name ) on the Stilo and some other new stuff.

Some were fully adjustable from feather-light to completely on your own with a dial on the dash.

Not cheap though!
corb
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19th Jan 04 at 01:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
town mode?
AK
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19th Jan 04 at 02:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i prefer small cars not to have PS!!

ruins the feel.
IntaCepta
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is power steering the same as power assisted steering?

parking a car with bigass wheels without PS/PAS can be a ball ache at times tho
Jason
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19th Jan 04 at 04:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i was messin about in my gf's clio last nite its on 17s and has power steering... ruins the drive imo
CorsaLad16v
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19th Jan 04 at 04:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i had a go in my mates Clio last nite, on standard steelies n i agree wiv u Jason, there's no feel to the drive at all
Welsh Dan
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the girly button on the fiat punto's is great. Whenever my mate isn't looking I press it, and all of a sudden he can't drive for shit
Tom
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I didn't used to be a fan or PS and am still not in certain cars..

I had a 03 fiesta TDCi bag o' spanners hire car for work a while back and that power steering was awful, felt like I wasn't even driving, but my bro's civic esi has power steering and u get alot more 'feedback' if you get what I mean?
J4LDO
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19th Jan 04 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
my xe corsa didnt have p/s was ok till you tried to park the fooker
Lucky B
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19th Jan 04 at 17:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IntaCepta
parking a car with bigass wheels without PS/PAS can be a ball ache at times tho

Parking a 2.0 16v corsa with no PAS and 195-50-15 Super soft compound tyres is a pain in the arms!

Also the more castor you run on the front suspension makes the steering even heavier

[Edited on 19-01-2004 by Lucky B]
PaulW
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19th Jan 04 at 17:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I'm not going to be puttin power steering on my corsa, but instead a complete replacement rack which is only a 2.2 turn unit
Lucky B
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19th Jan 04 at 17:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
nice one paul, the std 4 turn rack is far too slow.
corb
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19th Jan 04 at 18:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
so im not alone on this then??
Adam-D
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19th Jan 04 at 18:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i hate power steering make the steering feel remote no feedback cant feel the road
AK
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19th Jan 04 at 18:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucky B
nice one paul, the std 4 turn rack is far too slow.


as i noticed at alford
Kerry
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19th Jan 04 at 18:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
after drivin one that had powersteerin with a mind of its own i would say driving is better with none but parkin is a bitch
big eck
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19th Jan 04 at 22:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Mine hasnt got the power steering but i've still got the pump, its so heavy at slow speeds and trying to park it is like a full arm workout, i'll deffo be puttin mine on.
Mattb
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19th Jan 04 at 22:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i've gone from a gsi with power steering to an sri without, cant make my mind up which is better, i dont enjoy the tram lining tho
Jambo
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19th Jan 04 at 22:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
With my 17"s much preffered PAS, the weight of the wheels gave the steering feel, had a cinq sporting with no pas and a merit corsa with no pas, cant stand it tbh.

Much prefer mine, but with 14" wheels its like playing on the arcades, no feedback whatso ever
Go3asy
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19th Jan 04 at 23:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
does having no power steering and 17s , lowerd 40mm effect how hard it is to turn the fucker
Adam_B
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20th Jan 04 at 00:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
drove a 2L corsa just the other day with PAS, was quite nice round town but i didnt really drive it in anger as it wasnt mine I do like the weightyness of mine tho when im givin it a bootful on the twisties.
Go3asy
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20th Jan 04 at 00:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
makes me feel more in copntrol of the car without p/steering

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