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Darren M
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26th Feb 04 at 14:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im currently looking for a white corsa to strip out and really clean up.

i have two options :-

buy a gsi in good knick and tune that engine or....

get a base model corsa and buy a 1600 lump (i assume this is ok to do)

also corsa gsi lump and tigra 1600 lump the same???


Also after ideas to actually tune the engine.... whats avalible and what would people recommend

so adam/ollie/vibs/lee you have a blank canvass give me some ideas and rough prices please
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how much you want to spend


I'd go for either TB's or the inlet route. cams, bdalis inlet, exhaust manifold, ecat back system, head work and unichip will see you at around 155hp however the cost of all that probably runs to the same as the base kit for TB's
AK
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buy a decent bodied 1.6 corsa of any guise.... GSi/Sport...

strip it, and rebuild with no weight and TB's

Darren M
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well after selling the astra for around 5k (bored of driving a heavy tank)

bottom model corsa = prob could pick one up for 1k but obviously need to buy a 1600 lump

gsi = prob looking at 2.5k

so the rest of the 5 grand for mods

anymore info on tb's mate?
vibrio
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2k plus vat plus fitting for the 164kit

2.8k plus vat plus fitting for the 185kit
Ojc
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I'm starting off with

Velos inlet manifold
Unichip
SBD 4-2-1 manifold
Straight through system

That should see about 130bhp

Once I have more money, I will have some head work done and some cams fitted.

Should then be pushing 155bhp.
Stu_22
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Diference between corsa tigra lumps none

Difference between GSi and sport engines. EGR and slightly less power but they will be newer
Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
2k plus vat plus fitting for the 164kit

2.8k plus vat plus fitting for the 185kit


and the diffrence between the kits are? 164/185 brake?

is there a site for these kits mate?
Ojc
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Get a GSi to start with Darren, much better base to start from.
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My corsa is stripped out got two bucket seats going in.
got Spax coilovers
got the speedlines on
Just need the engine
Ojc
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www.velosmotorsport.co.uk

www.sbddev.co.uk
Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I'm starting off with

Velos inlet manifold
Unichip
SBD 4-2-1 manifold
Straight through system

That should see about 130bhp

Once I have more money, I will have some head work done and some cams fitted.

Should then be pushing 155bhp.


thats sounds cool and how much you looking at for all that?

or you could do that to yours then pop mine down to reading for a couple of weeks

yeah im leaning more to getting a GSI to start with.
Darren M
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26th Feb 04 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

MMMMMMM MMMMMMM

Includes- Multiple Throttle Bodies
Linkage
Fuel Rail
Throttle Position Sensor
DTA Programmable Engine Management System
Engine Management Wiring Loom and Map
Full Instructions
Power- 140bhp at flywheel for 1400 XE
165bhp at flywheel for 1600 XE
Cost- £1750 as kit
£2100 fitted


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Looks like a train engine I know nothing
Ojc
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Velos inlet manifold - £285
Unichip - £400
SBD 4-2-1 Manifold -
EX-M-COR-COMP £354.45
EX-M-RD3 £220.50
EX-M-WLR2 £370.00
EX-M-WLR4 £1,100.00
EX-M-CR-16V £761.65
Exhaust system - £300



Ojc
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Andy H - If you look at this thread, can you tell me the difference between these manifolds?

SBD 4-2-1 Manifold -
EX-M-COR-COMP £354.45
EX-M-RD3 £220.50
EX-M-WLR2 £370.00
EX-M-WLR4 £1,100.00
EX-M-CR-16V £761.65
Darren M
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Velos inlet manifold - £285
Unichip - £400
SBD 4-2-1 Manifold -
EX-M-COR-COMP £354.45
EX-M-RD3 £220.50
EX-M-WLR2 £370.00
EX-M-WLR4 £1,100.00
EX-M-CR-16V £761.65
Exhaust system - £300







right cheers for the prices. im the first to admit i dont know alot about engine work but im willing to learn and ask questions so bear with me ok

ollie why you spending that much if you can get throttle bodies fitted for less and with more bhp?
Ojc
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Because I'm going to do my car in stages.

Like this month I'm getting the rest of the parts to fit the engine as well as the Inlet manifold, then next month I'll get the exhaust manifold, month after that Unichip etc etc

Next winter I'll fit throttle bodies.

This is the way Andy H done it, and I'll do the same.
Darren M
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so basically your going to take it stage by stage tuning the engine then when you can add the throttle bodies at a later stage?

what BHP you hoping to get when the TB's are finally fitted ollie?
Ojc
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Well the inlet manifold will be on there when the engine is fitted, it won't be much faster until I have the Unichip to map it all together.

I need to get all the internals up rated when the throttle bodies are put in place, so it will be an expensive job, that's what you've got to remember Darren. Its not just a case of fitting throttle bodies for £1100, you need to spend another £1100 on strengthening the engine with up rated components.
Ojc
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Oh, with the headwork, cams, throttle bodies, mapped and strengthened internals etc it will be about 170-175bhp.
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Ollie still no word back from our Velos
Darren M
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yeah im following you mate. im best of doing the same as you then, uprate all the internal components plus manifold/exhaust get the chip to run all that together smoothly then at a later date invest in the TB's. am i right?
Ojc
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Inlet manifold
4-2-1 manifold
Unichip
Straight through exhaust

No internals strengthened to start with, I'll only uprate them when I fit throttle bodies.
AK
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no.......

fit the ARP rod bolts before unichip/raising rev for inlet etc

doesnt cost feck all ma boy

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