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Adam-D
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4th Mar 04 at 23:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
8v engine mounts are strong enuff to hold a 16v engine in?

they have same number of bolts...
Keith Piper
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4th Mar 04 at 23:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Should be I reckon. If not then it won't fall very far
CorsaLad16v
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4th Mar 04 at 23:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Keith Piper
Should be I reckon. If not then it won't fall very far


i should think so, is there much difference in weight?
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4th Mar 04 at 23:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
8v engine mounts are strong enuff to hold a 16v engine in?

they have same number of bolts...


i wouldnt risk it tbh
Keith Piper
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It's not so much the weight as the torque. Engines move about quite a lot, (unless you've only got 150 bhp)
Adam-D
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4th Mar 04 at 23:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
im asking because the 8v chasis and 16v chasis are different
the 8v has engine mounts that sit proud of the chasis but 16v has mounts that sit flush wit the chasis

the 8v has short mounts the 16v has longer mounts
they have the same number of bolts aswell-on the engines anyway

only difference being 8v mounts are steel and 16v are alloy

i dont think you can make 16v mounts fit a 8v chasis

now the nova gsi has 98bhp and 99lbf of torque
the corsa gsi has 109 bhp and 109lbf of tourqe
so i think the mounts may be strong enuff
CorsaLad16v
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4th Mar 04 at 23:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i see well i have no idea really, i'll leave u guys to it
Keith Piper
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4th Mar 04 at 23:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Dunno if this helps adam, but my car was a 1.2, now with a 1.4 16v, and the mounts are definately made of steel, and I had to buy them from Vaux. cos when I took out the moulten lump of metal that used to be an engine, I forgot to take them off before I lobbed it. If steel ones are 8v, then I can definately say they will withstand a 16v!
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 00:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yes 8v are steel
16v are alloy

the 8v mounts are part of the car they sit proud of chasis and bolt on differently to the 16v
but all the bolt holes on the engine's line up i think so i should be ok

cheers keith ive just paid for a non p/s gsi engine mount that i 1. dont need and 2. it wont fit

goin back to vaux tommorow me thinks

if they look dodgy ill purchase new 8v mounts and thatll help
as the dampers in the mounts are stiffer
Keith Piper
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5th Mar 04 at 00:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Good luck. By the way, what do u want for your arches?
Drew
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5th Mar 04 at 00:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i belive the mounts are only different on cars with and without p/s aint they?

[Edited on 05-03-2004 by Drew]
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5th Mar 04 at 00:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no
16v mounts are different to 8v mounts...

16v mounts are recessed inside the chassis legs also, 8v are on the outside of the leg.

Page 2A-26 in Haynes manual. (one for 93-97 Corsa)

[Edited on 05-03-2004 by PaulW]
Drew
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5th Mar 04 at 00:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok i was wrong
Adam-D
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yes this is where its gets trickey ive converted a p/s gsi engine to non p/s

using a 8v alternator bracket,and sri bottom crank pulley and v belt drive belt removed the ribbed belt pulley on the alt and replaed it with a v belt one and removed the p/s pump as its part of the mount

and it works
i sorted that lil mess myself
just these mounts and the vacumm pipe to get clear on and my engine will be fitted
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 00:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
no
16v mounts are different to 8v mounts...

16v mounts are recessed inside the chassis legs also, 8v are on the outside of the leg.

Page 2A-26 in Haynes manual. (one for 93-97 Corsa)

[Edited on 05-03-2004 by PaulW]


you know that the exact page i have open on my desk hence the questions

so 8v mounts wwill fit ma gsi engine w/o p/s ahh good

just 2 more things to sort and im happy
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5th Mar 04 at 00:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Keith Piper
Good luck. By the way, what do u want for your arches?



u2u sent
PaulW
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5th Mar 04 at 00:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
if the xe block has 4 mounting holes & the original mounts have only 3...

may be worth getting a set of mounts made up save all the faffin about? Shouldn't cost too much to do!
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 00:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
c16xe has 3 mounting holes
in the same place im pretty sure i have a mount here next to me 3 holes

raaarrr 8v mount will fit
Keith Piper
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5th Mar 04 at 00:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
x14xe has 3 holes as well
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 00:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cheers peeps i can sleep now vaux owe me £80

conversion is set for next week as long as my bolts for the g/box arrive on time
Keith Piper
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5th Mar 04 at 00:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Y do ya need bolts for the glove box?
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 00:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

gearbox

all 16 of them i need
and now vaux owe me some ££ i think ill try and get a clutch before i fit the engine
Ojc
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5th Mar 04 at 00:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I told you that the mounts that you have for the 8v were the same in the first place.

I'm using the Nova mounts for my X16XE as they are fairly new.
Adam-D
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5th Mar 04 at 09:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well we know now for sure
im gona use my original mounts but if they look ill ill replace them.
just gotta sort fuel lines and vacumm pipe
PaulW
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5th Mar 04 at 10:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how olds your corsa @ what was the old mileage?

96-N, 132k miles was mine, and the rubbers on the drivers side were very weak, looked like they were splitting

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