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sigibbons

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26th Mar 04 at 13:02

What kind of bhp would be needed to get around 8 second 0-60 in a 1.4 16v?

Also how much mods would this require and also cost?

LukeGSi

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26th Mar 04 at 13:03

ask jr im sure his is quicker than that

psycho sport

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26th Mar 04 at 13:04

i would guess around 130-140bhp???
depends on a lot of other things though!

sigibbons

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26th Mar 04 at 13:26

So for that a tourqe tube or mantzel add 15-20 hp,
105bhp.

What next to get up to 130-40 ish? chip, cam? How much would it cost?

Thanks guys an gals

Macca_G

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26th Mar 04 at 13:43

Its not the BHP that effects acceleration its torque mate!

[Edited on 26-03-2004 by Macca_G]

Ditch

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26th Mar 04 at 13:43

Engine Mods: SBD performance manifold 264 degree shrieck cams piper venier pulleys Uprated valve springs and caps Pocketed pistons Mantzel powerbox Omex ecu 7500 rev limit ap racing 4 paddle clutch decat arp conrod bolts Full BFO system ported, polished and flowed head

Transmission: F13 CR, ap racing 4 paddle clutch

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JR's spec from his garage, should see an 8second 60mph time I reckon.

You can tune the 14 & 16xe lumps all you like and get some cracking bhp figures, but they will always lack that extra torque of the red-top

[Edited on 26-03-2004 by Ditch]

Nick-S

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26th Mar 04 at 14:26

I Wud say u need a bit more than a Induction kit and back box

Andy

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26th Mar 04 at 15:07

quote:
Originally posted by Macca_G
Its not the BHP that effects acceleration its torque mate!

[Edited on 26-03-2004 by Macca_G]

rubbish - providing you have a reasonable spread of torque, then bhp is what counts. That's why we have gearboxes - to multiply effective torque at the wheels

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26th Mar 04 at 16:50

exactly the reason 16v petrols tend to have cr gearboxes, to multiply the torque. as the max torque figure is generally high up the rev range on 16v petrols

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26th Mar 04 at 16:52

quote:
Originally posted by Kris TD
exactly the reason 16v petrols tend to have cr gearboxes, to multiply the torque. as the max torque figure is generally high up the rev range on 16v petrols

your wrong. 16'v engines usually peak higher up the rev range. they usually have a good spread of torque.

sigibbons

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26th Mar 04 at 16:58

So back to the question after a powerbox or similar what would be the cheapest route to get to 130-140 bhp?

NOT NOS

Thanks, si

Kiddy_Corsa

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26th Mar 04 at 17:05

Manifold --- 300
Inlet Manifold --- 700
Chip --- 400
Cams --- 400
Torq Tubes --- 265
Full System Decat --- 350
All then need fitting.

[Edited on 26-03-2004 by Kiddy_Corsa]

the_legend_of_yrag

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26th Mar 04 at 17:08

what bhp figure you looking at doing all them mods to a C16XE???

Kiddy_Corsa

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26th Mar 04 at 17:11

around 150bhp

but others things will need up rating which will also cost$$

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26th Mar 04 at 19:58

quote:
Originally posted by Kiddy_Corsa
Manifold --- 300
Inlet Manifold --- 700
Chip --- 400
Cams --- 400
Torq Tubes --- 265
Full System Decat --- 350
All then need fitting.

[Edited on 26-03-2004 by Kiddy_Corsa]

theyre the same thing

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26th Mar 04 at 23:29

My old 1.4 16v would have done a 060 in around 8secs...

all you really have to do is increase your rev limiter to about 7000rpm... but go for 7500rpm....

If your going non TB route... do this..

Mantzel inlet
Shrick 256/264 (with 264 you would need new pocketed pistons)
SBD or PMC Exhaust manifold
flowed head.... inlets matched
Unichip or MBE ecu etc
ARP conrod bolts

All that on a 1.4 and a hoky coky rev limit of 7.5 to 8.5k will see you around 130/140bhp (ala JR/MattC old spec)

sigibbons

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27th Mar 04 at 19:24

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness

My old 1.4 16v would have done a 060 in around 8secs...

all you really have to do is increase your rev limiter to about 7000rpm... but go for 7500rpm....

If your going non TB route... do this..

Mantzel inlet
Shrick 256/264 (with 264 you would need new pocketed pistons)
SBD or PMC Exhaust manifold
flowed head.... inlets matched
Unichip or MBE ecu etc
ARP conrod bolts

All that on a 1.4 and a hoky coky rev limit of 7.5 to 8.5k will see you around 130/140bhp (ala JR/MattC old spec)

Why do you need new conrod bolts?

Ian

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27th Mar 04 at 19:26

Safety at that rev limit Si

sigibbons

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27th Mar 04 at 19:31

Yea thought so. So its the chip that moves the limit up to 7200 or watever?

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27th Mar 04 at 19:38

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness

My old 1.4 16v would have done a 060 in around 8secs...

all you really have to do is increase your rev limiter to about 7000rpm... but go for 7500rpm....

If your going non TB route... do this..

Mantzel inlet
Shrick 256/264 (with 264 you would need new pocketed pistons)
SBD or PMC Exhaust manifold
flowed head.... inlets matched
Unichip or MBE ecu etc
ARP conrod bolts

All that on a 1.4 and a hoky coky rev limit of 7.5 to 8.5k will see you around 130/140bhp (ala JR/MattC old spec)

i managed a 8.3 but that was with all the interior in it (leather and alcantara everything) is bloody heavy that car.

Ojc

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27th Mar 04 at 19:39

Yes

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28th Mar 04 at 00:02

UNICHIP's are supposed to be able to raise rev limits now..... but go for a standalone mapable ECU if you can afford it

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28th Mar 04 at 00:06

yeah that is true you can get an add on for the chip to increase the limit or summit

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28th Mar 04 at 00:11

Oh i would like to add to the list fo things to do, Get a set of SBD metal idler pulleys, its one less thing to worry about, i got a set fitted to my C16XE during the rebuild, it gives you piece of mind, the shitty vauxhall nylon ones tend to break up at high rpm or just cos of age and its bad bad news when the cam belt slips off

sigibbons

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28th Mar 04 at 00:14

yeah noticed this on one of me mates corsas today wen we were doin the cam belt and head gasket.

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