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Just been up to my dad's and set up his wireless netowrk for him, now i can go on CS in teh garden! First wireless one ive set up, which im pleased about.
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remember to implement some sort of security for machines to login into your internal network, otherwise you may have a few vistors you didnt expect
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^^ aye...but sod the login shite....just setup 128bit WEP on the wireless and it will be pretty secure. Although, rename any admin accounts to something else and switch of any guest accounts
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thing about WEP 128bit or not, it can still be cracked

yeah good idea with the admin accounts, change them default passwords :thmbs:
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Thats ill bad man selecta
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ive had it for ages, i dont think anyone within 100m of ye will try cracking the wireless network tho I have 128 bit WEP set up ect, no problems.
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as long as you know how far the wireless network goes from the AP the sure thats fine, but I personally wouldnt just trust WEP on its own, prehaps chuck in some IPSEC in there.
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thought you meant the site was in the sun newspaper!
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same
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Robert you are so thick
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lol thank you joeseph
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quote:
Originally posted by willay
thing about WEP 128bit or not, it can still be cracked

yeah good idea with the admin accounts, change them default passwords :thmbs:

yes, wep can be cracked, but only using a brute force method off guessing the key, and since there can be a few billion possibilities for the key and if you make the key fairly hard (loads of upper & lower case letters and numbers) its pretty much impossible to crack, unless the cracker feels that he has a few years to crack it or he has a head up on your passwords etc etc

Eitherway, make sure that each computer runs ZoneAlarm or another firewall other than XPs own shite and run a decent A-V, you should be pretty much safe
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Its Joe

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It's Rob
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It's Rob





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with pleasure
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quote:
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Originally posted by willay
thing about WEP 128bit or not, it can still be cracked

yeah good idea with the admin accounts, change them default passwords :thmbs:

yes, wep can be cracked, but only using a brute force method off guessing the key, and since there can be a few billion possibilities for the key and if you make the key fairly hard (loads of upper & lower case letters and numbers) its pretty much impossible to crack, unless the cracker feels that he has a few years to crack it or he has a head up on your passwords etc etc

Eitherway, make sure that each computer runs ZoneAlarm or another firewall other than XPs own shite and run a decent A-V, you should be pretty much safe


Last time i read about it I thought the toughness of the crack was all to do with how many packets you captured. Like I said I've only read about it so I wouldnt know the ins and outs.
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Yeah a brute force attack must try every key in the keyspace. 128bit would take about 1 x 10^20 years if you could try a million keys every second... (literally!)

The way to crack encryption is to try and reduce the keyspace by finding flaws in the algorithms -- when WEP is concerned there's loads!

If you capture around 7Gb of data traversing the wireless network, you can crack an average secret key in not much time at all!


[Edited on 24-05-2004 by Tim]
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Oh just while I'm on a really geeky roll... Uninteresting fact of the day is with current electronics it's impossible to crack 256-bit encryption by brute force...

The amount of energy you need to change each state in a 256-bit gray counter, means to count through every combination would need the energy from about 10^8 hypernovas

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quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Oh just while I'm on a really geeky roll... Uninteresting fact of the day is with current electronics it's impossible to crack 256-bit encryption by brute force...

The amount of energy you need to change each state in a 256-bit gray counter, means to count through every combination would need the energy from about 10^8 hypernovas

Please mock me

Geek!

I guess it means you did actually learn something in Uni, then, apart from the prices of every drink in every student bar!
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quote:
Originally posted by Tim
To change each state in a 256-bit gray counter would need the energy from about 10^8 hypernovas
Wooohoo I have a new chat-up line
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hi tim!
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