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ed
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27th May 04 at 13:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Has anyone used CRON in thier website. I'm doing a new version of UK Flava for Greg 1, and I have more or less got it going, apart from I don't think that this thing called CRON is working properly, as it is not automatically sending e-mails out like it should... Anyone know how to get it running? Or anything about it what so ever??? Thanks... I don't know if this question os very descriptive or not?
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27th May 04 at 13:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not familiar with it my self but did a quick search for it

http://www.unixgeeks.org/security/newbie/unix/cron-1.html
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doesnt it mean that u can have scripts constantly running rather than just run when they are accessed?? eg so an email could be sent at the end of an auction automatically not on an event such as somone placing a bid?
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27th May 04 at 13:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Yea, I think thats how it works, its just minw dont work
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27th May 04 at 13:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Ok, I understand it now... How do I run Bash Scripts :-S This is complicated
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i am hoping that this is on a unix server??

*crosses fingers*
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yea it is Nont of that NT stuff...
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27th May 04 at 13:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
wannna design a site for me?! www.woolsrus.co.uk ! needs a better layout etc
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27th May 04 at 13:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
good good uuum i think u have to start bash scripts with telnet?? i may be wrong!
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Ok... Designing sites is what I'm good at, and a bit of PHP, but this site is damn complicated - steep learning curve
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how does Telnet work? I know how to load telnet up, and I thought that bash scripts need to be run under telnet... But I have no idea about it... This is annoying
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uuuum do the scripts come with phpauction?
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buy a hosting package from http://www.vizaweb.com/ and they will install it for free
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All the Cron stuff came in a Cron folder, but Cron doesnt work... And it is PHP Auction
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can u use unix at all? using telnet u can "pretend" u are on the server and run the script! does the hosting u are using allow telnet access?
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Looking at the terms and conditions there is no bit saying Telnet isnt allowed, but when I try and connect to www.ukflava.com (that could be the wrong address though, I'm guessing) It returs error The server comes installed with CRON on it, so I think I can bodge it a bit, but I'll be missing an .exe called auction update which I need apparently if I don't compile the bash script...
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cron is normally accessable from the command line when you have a shell on the hosting machine.

from the freebsd manual, it says cron is...


NAME
cron - daemon to execute scheduled commands (Vixie Cron)
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cron is used to run scripts/programs/whatever at certain time sof the day, for example you can have a cron entry so it runs mycoolprogram.sh every 5 minutes.
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Cheers for that... Got CRON running now, just need to know how to compile me script using the bash file
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bash is a shell actually, if you are writing up a bash script it doesnt actually need any compiling, its just a normal file with commands in, say the file is called mycoolprogram.sh, you can execute it by running:

sh mycoolprogram.sh
or
bash mycoolprogram.sh

I guess.
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might help:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
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How do I run the bash file though, it produces a compiled program, which is what I need... I'm guessing I need to use Telnet, but I have no idea about Telnet or how to use it..

This is the readme, if I'm making no sense at all...

Auction Update is an Open Source Tool intended into c language to be used under
Windows (95/98/ME/NT/2000) to handle the problem of updating auctions checking ending
time and eventually removing them from the auctions database and send emails to
sellers and bidders.
This little tool was mainly developed under Debian 2.2 Linux and using Cygnus compiler
(formely called cygwin) ported under windows as an exutable file. For more info on
Cygnus compiler please refer to: http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ .
To compile this tool follow this simple step:
./build.sh
build.sh is a bash script to run the compiler.

Now you have two compiled files:

auctionupdate
and
auctionupdate.exe

Of course under windows environment you should used the second one.
auctionupdate accept two paramter on command line: hostname and uri. Talking simple
words you can run auctionupdate in this way:

./auctionupdate yourhostname /path/to/cron.php

Under windows environment you can run this tool at determined intervals using
a batch file and windows native scheduler.

I've put a sample batch file called run.bat, of course you have to modify it
to suite your needs.

[Edited on 27-05-2004 by 1800ed]
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right well first you need to ignore all the crap about windows, from what I can tell its hosted on a freebsd server (ukflava that is).

Its alot to explain really cause you have no idea how to access the hosting server in the first place, you need shell access to continue.
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This is the annoying thing. It doesn;t say anywhere in the documentation I have been given whether I have shell access or telnet access at all... Any way to find out?
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It is a freeBSD server too...

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