Hammer Man
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Hi people.
A friend of mine has an 1995 Corsa GSI, wich is an import (in brasil), as some of you might know...
I've always tought that all GSIs were C16XE, but recently we discovered that my friend"s engine is a X16XE... That discovery made him sad...
Well, I don't know how sad should he be, because his engine, with high mileage and completely stock, with exception of the K&N filter, new chip and bigger diameter exhaust pumped out 102 WHP...
I,ve been asking about this numbers here before (that time I was thinking that he hada C16XE), and people told me that this is normal for the C16. And I always read that the X16 is a weaker engine...
Could someone please enlighten me about this matters?
What is exactly the diference between them? Or the differences...
Shouldn't all GSIs be C16s?
I'm a little lost...
Thanks!
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by Hammer Man]
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LukeGSi
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The early GSis were C16xe and the later ones are X16xe....
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Ojc
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Speed wise hardly any difference, comes down to driver.
C16XE is easier to tune.
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Hammer Man
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This is the car:
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by Hammer Man]
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
The early GSis were C16xe and the later ones are X16xe....
Since what year?
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
C16XE is easier to tune.
Easier? How is that?
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LukeGSi
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Ill do you a deal mate, you tell me more about your induction pipe pictured and ill find out what years the GSi changed to the X16xe 
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big eck
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Thats a nice gsi, what kind of wheels are they?? Look like Evo R's at first glance
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by big eck]
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Greg_M
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what the hell is whp?
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
Thats a nice gsi, what kind of wheels are they?? Look like Evo R's at first glance
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by big eck]
Yes, thats what they are... 16x7 TSW EVO R, but they are "lightened"...
I'll show u the pics... let me just upload them to the server...
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Hammer Man
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Originally posted by Greg12v
what the hell is whp?
Wheel Horse Power...
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LukeGSi
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And the induction thingy?
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
Ill do you a deal mate, you tell me more about your induction pipe pictured and ill find out what years the GSi changed to the X16xe
Well... This pipe is 2,5 in, because the first time I saw the horrible OEM plastic (piece of trash) pipe, I just couldn't stand it. So I made this from pre-bended steel curves. At the time I made the conections with rubber hoses, but nowadays I use to expand the tubes and weld them together.
We also enlarged the throttle valve diameter a little bit and got rid of the std airbox and filter. We replaced it with a big cone type K&N and a custom fabricated airbox. That is a fiberglass piece with an air duct that leads to the front of the car. (you can see it in the bumper)
Well, the reason that all this was made, is because I've been reading that with ONLY a better induction system, this engines can reach over 150bhp. The fact that all this parts were used in the 1.0 four cylinder made me think that they would probably not be ideal to an engine capable of almost 3 times the 1.0 power...
At the time, I did not realise that the main problem was the intake manifold. So the results didn't come and the powerband was unchanged. All the power we have gained came from the little extra torque. No rev gains.
BUT, now we are fabricating something very similar to the Mantzel's "Powerbox", so we hope that we can finally make use of all that mods we have done to the car...
Any questions, please ask.
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LukeGSi
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I dont have a question but it looks amazing and i want one  
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LukeGSi
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Now give me a minute and ill keep to my part of the deal
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LukeGSi
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The X16xe was put in all GSis and sports made after 1994
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
The X16xe was put in all GSis and sports made after 1994
That explains everything... This one is 1995...
But what are the differences between them? Head? Camshafts? Internals? Bore x stroke? Management?
Why people keep saying that they are less responsive to tuning?
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LukeGSi
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That i dont know...pop a post in help zone and someone will tell you 
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Colin
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The C16XE will tune up easier because it has slightly better head design with larger valves on the exhaust side, plus no EGR system to sap power, if ya mod a C16XE its gains will always be more than on the X16XE
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Colin
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X16XE (later GSi's 95-96) does 0-60 in 9.5 and 119mph
C16XE (early GSi's 93-94) does 0-60 in 8.9 and 121mph.
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by Hammer Man
quote:
Originally posted by big eck
Thats a nice gsi, what kind of wheels are they?? Look like Evo R's at first glance
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by big eck]
Yes, thats what they are... 16x7 TSW EVO R, but they are "lightened"...
I'll show u the pics... let me just upload them to the server...
The pics are too big...  But don't give up on this one... I'll solve this little problem and post them in a new site...
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by Kolin
The C16XE will tune up easier because it has slightly better head design with larger valves on the exhaust side, plus no EGR system to sap power, if ya mod a C16XE its gains will always be more than on the X16XE
Well... The EGR is long gone... The head design can be "upgraded", since it isn't a completely different head... Even the valves can be changed... Thats was all part of the plan anyway... Except the bigger exhaust valves...
quote:
Originally posted by Kolin
X16XE (later GSi's 95-96) does 0-60 in 9.5 and 119mph
C16XE (early GSi's 93-94) does 0-60 in 8.9 and 121mph.
That is not such a small difference!
THANKS!!!
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by Hammer Man]
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
Thats a nice gsi, what kind of wheels are they?? Look like Evo R's at first glance
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by big eck]
Better now...
[Edited on 30-05-2004 by Hammer Man]
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Hammer Man
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quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
I dont have a question but it looks amazing and i want one
That can be arranged!
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corsa_godfather
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what air filter is on that?
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