whitter45
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Registered: 15th Nov 02
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Opinions please on this car
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Dan B
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Registered: 25th Feb 01
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It's a Ford.
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Mad Moe
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Registered: 14th Jun 01
Location: Northumberland
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Expensive if you want a decent spec, and there are better cars for the money. Decent enough drive, nowt special basically.
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rollin
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Registered: 24th Apr 02
Location: Reading
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not bad definately better cars out there for the money, not lightening fast or brilliantly refined just ok-good at both iv always like focus's but just depends what u want it for? leon cupra or cupra r would be a much better bet, all depends whatu want the car for? all out speed? good comfort levels? reselability?
other choices clio 182 (brilliant i love them lol have a 172 tho 
civic type r again brilliant performance but maybe a touch unreifned (may not matter to u?
mini cooper s personally dont like but said to be a good car
seat leon or ibiza cupra/cupra r nice fast reliable although i believe the r's are slightly less refined?
get out drive all the above then make your decision
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Robbo
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Registered: 6th Aug 02
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Slllllllllooooooowwwwwwwwww compared to similar money options
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Marc
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Location: York
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dont look bad in silver 
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Marc D
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Registered: 29th Apr 03
Location: Wirral, Merseyside
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looks nice, fast enough (clio 172 only a touch quicker), it aint french
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broster
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Registered: 6th Dec 02
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whats your obsession with cars not being french?
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by whitter45
Opinions please on this car
over priced, slow, looks nothing special.
good handling nicely spec'd
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psycho sport
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Registered: 27th Mar 03
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raced one last night and pooed on it. bit too slow tbh and as said before there are better alternatives around.
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Scotty_B
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Registered: 11th Jun 03
Location: East Kilbride
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Nice headlights.
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Phil321
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Registered: 10th Mar 01
Location: Manchester
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Terrific chassis, best driving position on the market, tidy, clean looks.
Not rapid but then again I don't think they're supposed to be, hence the RS. But thats another story......
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whitter45
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its only because i went for a test drive in both the ST 170 and the civic type R nd can't make my mind up
The Ford felt really well built inside and you get a good spec with the comfort pack
The civic type R was alot quicker but getting it into the VTEC range 6000 revs plus makes it sound really boomy and as though the engine will break (although i know it won't).
Inside the CTR felt a bit unfinished although the gear stick is in a cracking position
The biggest factor is insurance as the ST 15 and CTR is 17.
1000 for the ST and 1500 for the CTR. I don't think the CTR is worth an extra 500 for insurance
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nik
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Registered: 19th Jun 00
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The CTR is easily the better car, out of those two I'd choose Honda everytime without a doubt. CTR is a lot quicker in all situations, interior maybe a bit bland but its strong and looks ok. Your get used to the vtec but the joy is if you keep it below the fuel consumption is spot on !
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Tom
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EASILY the CTR, thought wouldn't even enter my head about the st.
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Marc
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Registered: 11th Aug 02
Location: York
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Id go for a Type-R
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Avey
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Registered: 4th Sep 02
Location: North West, Drives:Cosmic Grey CTR
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Defo the Type R 
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vibrio
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I'd go for leon cupra R
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whitter45
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leon cupra - heard bad things about them such as poorly built interior. Also not that fast
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vibrio
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faster than a ST170 and in gear slightly quicker than CTR. better paint quality that CTR and probabyl built better too but it all depends on what you want
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whitter45
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yeah i understand what u are saying. i have heard bad reports on paint qulaity on type R
Not after right out pace but with 85% of its torque avalable from 2000 revs on the St170 it felt quite quick and u get alot of spec with them
I want a fast car but insuance issues are the problem and the St170 isn't exactly slow and is the cheapest to insure out of all the cars put forward here
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vibrio
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get teh ST then. you can pick them up relativiley cheap now
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morrisdaboss
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Registered: 11th Jun 03
Location: Feltham, have you?
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chill out for a year and wit for the rs.looks and goes much better.
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nik
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quote:
Originally posted by MORRIS69
chill out for a year and wit for the rs.looks and goes much better.
rs goes much better than an st but not a ctr.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by nik
quote:
Originally posted by MORRIS69
chill out for a year and wit for the rs.looks and goes much better.
rs goes much better than an st and the ctr.
well it does have a turbocharged engine 
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