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Robertio_uk

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4th Jul 04 at 20:48

how easy is this to do??? will it still be realible as the standard turbo engines?
what would need doing and changing?

thanx

deanmcreynolds26

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4th Jul 04 at 20:52

cheaper gettin a LET mate TBH

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 20:55

swap XE for LET or don't bother having a turbo engine

Robertio_uk

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4th Jul 04 at 20:58

have thought about thottle bodies but not sure what they will be like compared to a c20let

deanmcreynolds26

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4th Jul 04 at 21:00

i think id rather have TB's than a LET

Greg_M

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4th Jul 04 at 21:02

TB's = no turbo lag

Robertio_uk

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4th Jul 04 at 21:04

so would a 2ltr TB have better performace then a let then?

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4th Jul 04 at 21:07

a std c20xe with TB's will be pretty even with std c20let.... less power but more usable power...

Then it really comes down to how much you spend, and on what.... for 1k more the turbo will be faster.....

Greg_M

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4th Jul 04 at 21:07

do a search been argued loads of times, cant remember what the result was tho.

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:08

this debate has gone on for ages about whats better to have c20let turbo or the c20xe on tb's and generally the opinions are from people who have never owned/driven either of them. but if that was the case then most of corsasport will have owned one so that cant be right can it?

i think an XE on tb's would be a better track car than a c20let

i think a c20let is more fun to drive and when moderately tuned, far superior in power to the XE

my verdict- c20let for driving daily or road projects
c20xe for track experimenting or lower insurance

Robertio_uk

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4th Jul 04 at 21:11

both realiable as each other?

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4th Jul 04 at 21:12

TB much much more reliable.....

less temtation to just 'up' the boost

Siberia

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4th Jul 04 at 21:13

Tb's are not REALLY ment for the road though are they?

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4th Jul 04 at 21:15

er........ why on earth not?

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:15

depends how well you treat it

a lot of people will say ' they are shit they break down every 2 minutes blah de blah'
but why do they break down? these engines are all designed the same, all made out of the same gear and materials so why would one engine be worse than the other? it's how its treat, wether it be 1mile ago or 30,000miles ago

regular oil changes, checks, no stupid mods, just basically look after it and you have a good engine

then there's the previous work done to the engine before its in your hands, could that cock something up? hence why you should get service history

there will be a lot of people who will fill your head with utter nonsense, don't be naive enough to to listen to it and you cant go wrong

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4th Jul 04 at 21:16

quote:
Originally posted by VenomTurbo
depends how well you treat it

a lot of people will say ' they are shit they break down every 2 minutes blah de blah'
but why do they break down? these engines are all designed the same, all made out of the same gear and materials so why would one engine be worse than the other? it's how its treat, wether it be 1mile ago or 30,000miles ago

regular oil changes, checks, no stupid mods, just basically look after it and you have a good engine

then there's the previous work done to the engine before its in your hands, could that cock something up? hence why you should get service history

there will be a lot of people who will fill your head with utter nonsense, don't be naive enough to to listen to it and you cant go wrong

granted, but its much easier to be stupid with a LET

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:20

yes adam, there is that extra temptation, there's no better person to ask than someone who owns an xe or let, like me n u as we experienced things with these engines.

as soon as boost is upped, your reducing the 'reliability'
if you drive a c20let within it's boundaries, you get a good fun factor and they are reliable,same with the XE's and generally same with any engine.

[Edited on 04-07-04 by VenomTurbo]

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4th Jul 04 at 21:20

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
er........ why on earth not?

i'm not saying u cant use em of course ya can but i just get the impression that ya'd be spending half the time fixing the car because of them and that there really for using if you race/drag.... were as a LET would be alot more suitable to road use and everyday use

just my view

Robertio_uk

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4th Jul 04 at 21:22

so a LET would be better for an everyday car?

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:24

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
er........ why on earth not?

i'm not saying u cant use em of course ya can but i just get the impression that ya'd be spending half the time fixing the car because of them and that there really for using if you race/drag.... were as a LET would be alot more suitable to road use and everyday use

just my view

this is the other side of the arguement, how do you define 'suitable'? suitable being safe? or suitable being racing down country lanes?

i drive my corsa LET daily now, and i've managed 210miles from 40litres of fuel which i think is quite good compared to what people were telling me before i fitted it, i had people saying ' you'll only get 100miles to a full tank' etc.......

yet again it depends how you treat the car, and i do open it up when roads are clear and i just generally feel like booting it

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:25

quote:
Originally posted by Robertio_uk
so a LET would be better for an everyday car?

there is no 'better'. your version of 'better' would suit what your after in the car

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4th Jul 04 at 21:26

quote:
Originally posted by Siberia

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
er........ why on earth not?

i'm not saying u cant use em of course ya can but i just get the impression that ya'd be spending half the time fixing the car because of them and that there really for using if you race/drag.... were as a LET would be alot more suitable to road use and everyday use

just my view

where'd you get that nonsense from?

TB's are just an expansion on the setup on every car..... 4 tb's instead of one single TB for x cylinders.....

They are ECU controlled... unlike carbs.....

J da Silva

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4th Jul 04 at 21:27

TB's are an ace power gain, and i think they are quite safe compared to a c20let with mods over 300bhp

Siberia

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4th Jul 04 at 21:29

i'll stop talking

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4th Jul 04 at 21:31

quote:
Originally posted by VenomTurbo
TB's are an ace power gain, and i think they are quite safe compared to a c20let with mods over 300bhp

saying that..... its mega expensive the get a c20xe to 300bhp..... but quite easy with the right parts and common sense for a LET...

I think, as you've said, its down to pref taste..... If you like sreaming rev's and NA power.... TB's. If you like the turbo 'pull' go for a C20Let...

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