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Kris TD
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15th Jul 04 at 22:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

easy job?
CorsAsh
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15th Jul 04 at 22:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hardest part is separating the top ends of the hose (ie at the other end to the caliper) as theyre usually rusted up.

Clamp the old hose near the top and disconnect the lower end first, then connect the new hose to the caliper, then to the upper connector once you get the old one off - this way you won't lose as much fluid.



[Edited on 15-07-2004 by CorsAsh]
Siberia
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15th Jul 04 at 22:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeh... i only have them on the front but easy job...just might involve bending yer hand around things to get at the rear one but just connect the up and do a full bleed of the system.


P.S i dunno if ya remembered about telling me to use bigger bump stops to stop my rear wheels from rubbing on the inner arch... but i did it and they worked a treat car is down around 60 in the rear with no rubbing at all even over the really bad bumps.....

P.P.S another way for stopping fluid los is to open the fluid resiover(sp) and put a plastic bag over the top and tighen the cap down on it... makes it more air tight.

[Edited on 15-07-2004 by Siberia]
CorsAsh
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15th Jul 04 at 22:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

BTW Kris, pay attention to where the hoses are going from lock to lock... The braids mean the hoses have a way they prefer to flex, so make sure they dont catch on the inner edge of your alloy wheel

Just remembering the things I came across doing mine...
Greasemonkey
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15th Jul 04 at 22:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I did mine about 3 weeks ago, the fronts are ok, like said the top connector is the hardest, the rear is a nightmare, but it aint advisable to just do the front or the rears might burst
CorsAsh
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15th Jul 04 at 22:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

THe lad who was doin most of the work on mine is a brake specialist, basically said you're ok just doin the fronts. Only replace the rears if you have to, as it's a right bitch - access to a ramp is advisable...
Kris TD
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15th Jul 04 at 22:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok kule cheers guys, got mine today as my brakes are far too spongy for my liking.
yeah those bump stops work a treat dont they
no doubt mine are rusted up, my corsa is 11 years old, lol
Kris TD
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oh another thing, did they make a noticable difference?
Greasemonkey
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well i fitted V6 brakes without them they would be impossible to use, too spongey, the hoses just got em back to standard feel for me, really need a bigger master cylinder/servo, bet they would be real good on standard calipers etc
Kris TD
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15th Jul 04 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sweet, i have 2l calipers so hopefulyl that will sort them out a treat, funnily enough my bro has 2l brakes on his td too and they are really sharp. dont know wether its just my hoses are old and knackered or he has a bigger master cylinder / servo as he has abs. probably both.
CorsAsh
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I've got the 2.0l 16v setup on mine with goodridge hoses, stopping power is great, and the pedal feels rock solid (apart from the first few mm or so, but I'm told that's down to corsas having a complicated linkage system )
Greasemonkey
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linkage system, ya mean the system runs on diagonal circuits????, my brakes have never been solid, ya can push ya foot to the floor but man does it stop, had my servo/master cylinder checked and every thing is fine, system bled over and over dunno why mine are like it, i have ABS????
CorsAsh
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15th Jul 04 at 22:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Once the brakes come in, theyre fine, but from what I've heard, the sheer number of parts in the brake system means that theres always a fair bit of pedal travel before you get anything happening.

The systems on Fords for example, have a simpler construction, and so less "brake lag" i suppose you could call it
Greasemonkey
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yeah my mum escort cabriolet has good brakes the pedal is rock hard as well, ya can only push it 30mm or so before it locks up lol
CorsAsh
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Yeah, this is what I'm on about, even the Corsa C's have much better brakes. Compared to my 1.2 C's solid little discs, my 2.0l brakes on the B feel quite sloppy...
myke
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do you need those funny enclosed pipe spanners for the job?
CorsAsh
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Pipe spanners?

Don't think so, just normal selection of ring spanners, mole grips or similar, and a hammer
fragpot
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I've just bought a set to go with my ATE Calipers. Will be fitting them next week so I will take some pics and make a 'how to' although fitting brakes is a pretty easy job some people might find it beneficial.
Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by myke
do you need those funny enclosed pipe spanners for the job?


brake pipe union spanners?
dunno, good job i have some though

right, this is a job for the weekend
Siberia
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i have V6 on the front of mine.... i dunno what people are on about saying the pedal feel is spongy mine bites straight away.

they were a bit wierd up untill the other night when i changed the cylinders in the rear and i just couldn't get much pressure into them.

the haynes said to bleed the brakes with the eingine off. tryed that and it just wouldn't work.

so kept the engine on and bled them and bugger me these brakes are absoulutly brilliant!... but i could probably bleed them a bit more cos i was rushing at the time.

they do lock up quite easy though especially in the wet.

my advise is when you put the braided lines in there should be no spongyness... if there is then there not bleeded right.

also what corsAsh said be careful the lines dont rub off yer wheels. mine were and i only noticed it when i have the wheel off for something else.
TOMAS
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ahhh all my old Goodridge buyers - I see your all happy

I got pipe union spanners and STILL managed to round two unions off! If you fine with bleeding brakes then its an easy job - if you dont round them off, otherwise you'll have to get new solid lines made up like I had to Oh and pedal feel is great with V6's for me
Kris TD
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think ill get the wd40 on the unions tonight in prep for changing them sunday lol
corsaandy
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its an easy job to do did mine the other week, brake pipe spanner is a must and make sure you are undoing it i did one of mine up by accident which meant a trip to the scrappy was in order. The rears are just the same as the fronts i had no problems doing it but this may be due to the fact i was fitting rear disks at the time and had the whole rear beam off of the car.
harry23
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wot about the type of brake lines. if you've got a corsa and stick on new piston callipers what lines would u hav to buy?, lines 2 fit to the callipers or lines to fit to the car or is there no difference?
Kris TD
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17th Jul 04 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you use the corsa hoses no matter what calipers you have.

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