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Shelly
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16th Aug 04 at 09:35   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A friend of mine was in the bowling alley and some guy started shoving him around, so he shoved them back. My mate was on his own and the other lad had mates, so he tried to get away from him. The lad chased after him and had hold of him. So my mate hit him with a steering lock in the chest. My mate was arrested and the other lad taken to hospital.

My mate has no previous convictions or has never done this before.

Does anyone know what he is likely to get?
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who is this your on about shel, do i know him?
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i got done last year for abh when the lad i was seein beat the livin daylights out of his then ex ( now gf) and she blamed me

its a pretty serious offence, think its like 3yrs or summat, but i was shitting, i had no previous but she dropped the charges, the copper said to me if it had gone to court, cos she was bigger than me etc, she was pissed i was sober etc, it wudnt have stood up,

depends on the injurys tho
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Same kinda thing happened to my mate in a night club on his own, hit the guy with a bottle and partially blinded him.....he could get up to 2yrs I think even tho its his first offence and he was defending himself...a fine and compensation is more likely tho!
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quote:
Originally posted by sassyminx
i got done last year for abh when the lad i was seein beat the livin daylights out of his then ex ( now gf) and she blamed me

its a pretty serious offence, think its like 3yrs or summat, but i was shitting, i had no previous but she dropped the charges, the copper said to me if it had gone to court, cos she was bigger than me etc, she was pissed i was sober etc, it wudnt have stood up,

depends on the injurys tho


But you could have used your tits to whack her with.
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He could turn it around and say self defence
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quote:
Originally posted by L33 LEG
who is this your on about shel, do i know him?



Narh you don't know him Lee.
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if u say it was self defence they want to know who struck first etc, but say he was intimidated, usually works i reckon
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It all depends on the circumstances, if there were loads of them then he can use it as self defence
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well the guy pushed him first, they have that on CCTV, but they dont have what happened after, because that was outside.
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Originally posted by big eck
It all depends on the circumstances, if there were loads of them then he can use it as self defence


yeah he had mates with him, my mates mates were in the car outside
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shud be ok if cctv shows them starting it.
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thats what I keep telling him, hes absolutely shitting bricks about it all
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depends, me a a couple of mates got started on by a group of lads outdside a nightclub, and the resulting fight put two of them in hospital and the others quite bashed up we were going to get done before the charges were dropped even thou there was twice as many of them....

We used excessive force defending ourselves
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yes I have been in similar situation right in the middle of town, managed to leg it tho
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his job is on the line as well, working in the college......
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how will they find out?
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self defence..
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Try pre-empted strike, might work. Don't know though if it was a steering lock. Not much will happen though if they don't go ahead with it.
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depending on circumstances (which to be honest i cant see him getting convicted) he could get anything really
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Like everyone else said, sounds to me like he was acting in self defence (the steering lock bit might not go down to well tho)

he should be ok me thinks
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16th Aug 04 at 20:58   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

he said it was the nearest thing he could have got hold of
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its instinct, he panicked what else was he supposed to do, take a kicking?
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i suppose he will have done it by instinct (sp). i rekon i'd have done the same tbh
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he can vow it was either using the steering lock and saving himself or not using it and taken a huge beating and could of been left for dead, think we would all do the same

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