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12th Nov 04 at 13:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

going to a little rolling road day there on sat. just wondering what they are like, is there rolling road accurate? didnt paul j get lots from his 1.2 16v?
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PE are very good
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good stuff, there will be 35 cars there, all fiestas and focus's..........oh and me lol!think ill get a beating

[Edited on 12-11-2004 by broster]
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i think we should arange a CS day there

Ask them while your there

[Edited on 12-11-2004 by iceman]
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yes P.E are good - ...

Ian Ball will even tell you how you can improve the way your car runs by looking at the power read outs.

First time I went there, I got 64 bhp, and he told me my air flow meter was fucked. I replaced it and went back and got 81 bhp.

75 standard + 6 bhp for cat back exhaust.
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12th Nov 04 at 13:28   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

im only going as im making some changes to my engine, drastic ones and want a base figure, will go back later, ill see what he says about another cs day there.how much did u pay for a session paul?
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
i think we should arange a CS day there

Ask them while your there

[Edited on 12-11-2004 by iceman]


We had a CS day there that's where mine, fads, tims (adams 78 bhp) etc got there cars RR'd
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and i missed it damn and double damn lol
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When I went on my own it cost £45! - when I went with CS it was £35...

235 cars is a lot of cars to get through!!! probably will be cheap though if there's that many.
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oops i ment 35 lol! yeah its costing 35 a go
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Did wonder

yeh we had about 30 ish as we went with tim's brother's Volvo group... Those T-5's were kicking out 300+ bhp (the sound on the rollers was mad!)... made my car look so pathetic.

But as one of them said "IT means in a straight line we can embarress almost anything, get a slight corner however and we're FUCKED!"

Is this the first time your cars been RR'd since you've got all the gear on your engine? would be interesting to see what you get.
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12th Nov 04 at 13:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nope it was rollered whe nit was mapped got 140bhp, but i got a dodgy coil pack now, low voltage on 1 and 4. however do hav the decat now lol! would be nice to get over 140, but i doubt it.
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12th Nov 04 at 13:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

beat this



God I wished my power / torque didn't drop off so early (or I had a fast car lol)
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12th Nov 04 at 13:36   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

think i may have a chance at beating that
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haha - I'd hate to get my car rolling roaded now ... It'd make about 50 bhp at a guess so many things fucked on it...you can feel the power (the lack of) drop off at about 4500 rpm at the moment If I could sell my car easily, I'd buy a 106 gti tommorrow.
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out of interest, whats the average cost to put ur car on a rolling road? ive only got a 1.2 16v
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on my own it was £45! however P.E. are a bit pricy... so you could get it cheaper, but possibly not as good?
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anything for 25pounds to 50
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whats there to do with a 1.2 16v 2 get more bhp i spose there isnt much u can do is there? apart from the usual filter, exhaust system etc..
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12th Nov 04 at 13:44   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ditch it for a bigger engine
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thought so lol
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there is quite a lot you can do, but not worth it for the money...

The main is from Dbilas (can be bought from regal in the uk) ...

replacement upper and lower inlet manifold, with a unichip that is mapped by them...



looks like this...

A couple of people have this for their 1.2 16v's - 1 of them made 105 bhp @ the fly with a standard exhaust. (75 - 105 = 30 increase)

So with a exhaust + exhaust manifold, + cams + whatever else you wanna chuck at it ... you could have 115+ bhp...

HOWEVER, you won't have the torque to match it - so you'll be able to get an ok top speed (or not as F13 is limited to something like 119mph) - but really acceleration won't be brilliant (quicker than it is, but not 2.0 beater or anything)...

Plus the dbilas package (inlet, chip and mapping) costs £850!

Not really worth it (though I was tempted if they had offered me a cheaper discount)

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be cheaper to buy a 2ltr lump lol
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But what if you want to sell the car afterwards?

More saleability if its got a 1.2 16v rather than a 2.0 16v
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thats true ojc.

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