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Ian
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My girlfriends Lexus is having a new wing after someone clipped it while it was parked so the insurance have arranged for a like-for-like hire car, except they had no IS200s, so they've given us a Saab 9-5.

The guy on the phone was like 'we've got you a bit of an upgrade, its a Saab 9-5 turbo' so I thought he meant it was the quick one. Its not so fast, but I can live with that.

The steering wheel is rubbish, the rack is too long, the box is clunky and the gearknob is too big. The key is in the wrong place and you can't take it out unless the car is in reverse. The car also beeps at everything, if you're low on fuel, if the door is open when the ignition is on, if you don't have a seatbelt on which I can half agree with but its damn annoying. It beeps about the seatbelt as soon as the engine is on so if you turn it on to heat the car up you get told off for not wearing a seatbelt while you're sat on your path, then you have to press the 'off' button on the climate control to turn it on, then if its too cold you can't just put it on full heat with a low blower it just says 'Hi' and blows loads of cold air at you until the engine warms up.

I've just been to the shops in it then and on the way home it starting beeping at me again 'info display' came up on the clocks, so I looked at the screen and it was like 'Wear your seatbelt' - which I was. Confused me for a minute then I realised it was telling the shopping off

Stupid over-engineered dumb thing.
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the 'night pannel' on the saabs is also a great idea
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@ the shopping
Kerry
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went to bakery in my mates audi yesterday and it was a bit like that
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Yeah, you get a speedo that only reads to 90 instead of 160, you only get the full speedo back when you need it, already tested that.
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Adam-D
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awww fucking hell

i can see why saab drivers are grumpy they spend all day working getting moned at, they get it at home form kids/wife then they go for a drive and get told off by the car

[Edited on 18-12-2004 by Adam-D]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Yeah, you get a speedo that only reads to 90 instead of 160, you only get the full speedo back when you need it, already tested that.



learn a new thing everyday
but what about the rest of the guages...
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I assume the others will come on if you need it to. I'm letting it run low on petrol to test my theory.
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aint saabs supposed to be amazingly quick in second though - am sure the small guy on top gear reviewed one
ed
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quote:
Originally posted by Mattb
quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Yeah, you get a speedo that only reads to 90 instead of 160, you only get the full speedo back when you need it, already tested that.



learn a new thing everyday
but what about the rest of the guages...

What a wank idea Just becuase you know how to program a chip to do stuff doesn't mean you should... Stuff like that is annoying.
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Originally posted by purple5
aint saabs supposed to be amazingly quick in second though - am sure the small guy on top gear reviewed one


my cars amazingly quick in second
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
My girlfriends Lexus is having a new wing after someone clipped it while it was parked so the insurance have arranged for a like-for-like hire car, except they had no IS200s, so they've given us a Saab 9-5.

The guy on the phone was like 'we've got you a bit of an upgrade, its a Saab 9-5 turbo' so I thought he meant it was the quick one. Its not so fast, but I can live with that.

The steering wheel is rubbish, the rack is too long, the box is clunky and the gearknob is too big. The key is in the wrong place and you can't take it out unless the car is in reverse. The car also beeps at everything, if you're low on fuel, if the door is open when the ignition is on, if you don't have a seatbelt on which I can half agree with but its damn annoying. It beeps about the seatbelt as soon as the engine is on so if you turn it on to heat the car up you get told off for not wearing a seatbelt while you're sat on your path, then you have to press the 'off' button on the climate control to turn it on, then if its too cold you can't just put it on full heat with a low blower it just says 'Hi' and blows loads of cold air at you until the engine warms up.

I've just been to the shops in it then and on the way home it starting beeping at me again 'info display' came up on the clocks, so I looked at the screen and it was like 'Wear your seatbelt' - which I was. Confused me for a minute then I realised it was telling the shopping off

Stupid over-engineered dumb thing.


it's a vectra Ian what do you expect
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quote:
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aint saabs supposed to be amazingly quick in second though - am sure the small guy on top gear reviewed one


yes the areo version but the bog standard 1.8T is a bit crap
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i thought they were 2.0T
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you get a 9:3 with 1.8 122hp, 1.8T 150hp, 2.0T 175hp, 2.0T 210hp, 1.9DTi 120, 1.9DTi 150

on the 9:5 you get 2.0T 150hp, 2.3T 185hp, 2.3T 220hp, 2.3 HOT 250hp, 2.2 TDi 120hp, 3.0 V6 TDi 176hp

bold requires 98ron for peak performance
Ian
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This is the 150 I think.
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Er, 150bhp out of a 2.0 turbo... There must be something wrong there surely?
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not really
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Originally posted by 1800ed
Er, 150bhp out of a 2.0 turbo... There must be something wrong there surely?


No, thats the 1.8T, half of the range run low pressure turbos also.
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at the shopping.

Ian, you get paid too much

The C3 has that seat belt beep thing. But it only beeps once you get over 5MPH and on the drivers seat. We can't afford a Saab
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My Audi's old computer was useless too MPG reading was always all over the place and the fuel reading was never right

My mates old Audi 100 20V Sport was good though! Used to tell you EVERYTHING about the car..bulbs out..All sensors working or not etc.. For a G reg car too

Good story though Ian
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My Astra tells me if any bulbs are out, when the washer bottle is running empty and all the engine sensors, oil etc. And the range is called 'Range'. On the Saab its called 'DTE'. Distance to Empty. I know that because I had to read the manual to find out!

One thing it has got though, ETA. You tell it how many miles you're driving and it tells you when you're going to arrive. So inaccurate its funny, especially if you take the car out after her and drive faster, you can make time go backwards.
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800ed
Er, 150bhp out of a 2.0 turbo... There must be something wrong there surely?


not really - low pressure unit means better mpg, better emissions and more torque

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