Adam_B
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few days ago i cleaned my ICV, fitted new hydraulic lifters, QED Q42H spec cams (256 deg?) and vernier pulleys and put a set of standard cream injectors in that have been cleaned. The car started first time on sat afternoon but was running really rough below 2k rpm but above that it was fine. I put this down to having the cams on a standard ECU.
This morning i came to fire it up and it wouldnt, it turns over fine, sparks and fuel getting through. Ive had these cams in a previus engine also on a standard ecu and never had any problems like this. Ive changed the injectors back to the old ones and re-done the cambelt timing. Have a spare ICV here that i will try tomorrow.
im thinking my timing is still pissed or the ICV is now fucked? anything else could be?
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Adam_B
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2.0 16v XE
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Tiger
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Originally posted by Adam_B
few days ago i cleaned my ICV, fitted new hydraulic lifters, QED Q42H spec cams (256 deg?) and vernier pulleys and put a set of standard cream injectors in that have been cleaned. The car started first time on sat afternoon but was running really rough below 2k rpm but above that it was fine. I put this down to having the cams on a standard ECU.
This morning i came to fire it up and it wouldnt, it turns over fine, sparks and fuel getting through. Ive had these cams in a previus engine also on a standard ecu and never had any problems like this. Ive changed the injectors back to the old ones and re-done the cambelt timing. Have a spare ICV here that i will try tomorrow.
im thinking my timing is still pissed or the ICV is now fucked? anything else could be?
help
Id say your timing maybe 180 degrees out....
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myke
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didn't you do that once before Adam? get it half a turn wrong. easy to check down a spark plug hole.
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Adam_B
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number 1 piston is at TDC and the cams line up with the marks on the rocker cover. could it still be wrong? i know the bottom pulley turns twice ever time the cams turn once but i can never get my head round how they would be 180 deg out
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Tiger
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Dont try and get your head round it, it'll get caught in the pulleys 
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Adam_B
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myke
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180 out would be cam marks at top, bottom pulley lined up, but all pistons level at half mast.
if no.1 is tdc then you're ok.
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Tiger
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You'd better check a manual mate, just to be sure to be sure.
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Adam_B
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quote:
Originally posted by myke
180 out would be cam marks at top, bottom pulley lined up, but all pistons level at half mast.
if no.1 is tdc then you're ok.
deffinitly not that then
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=181956
[Edited on 21-02-2005 by Adam_B]
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Adam_B
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earth strap somewhere? maybe
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Adam_B
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swapped ICV, no joy
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lee mitchell
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
few days ago i cleaned my ICV, fitted new hydraulic lifters, QED Q42H spec cams (256 deg?) and vernier pulleys and put a set of standard cream injectors in that have been cleaned. The car started first time on sat afternoon but was running really rough below 2k rpm but above that it was fine. I put this down to having the cams on a standard ECU.
This morning i came to fire it up and it wouldnt, it turns over fine, sparks and fuel getting through. Ive had these cams in a previus engine also on a standard ecu and never had any problems like this. Ive changed the injectors back to the old ones and re-done the cambelt timing. Have a spare ICV here that i will try tomorrow.
im thinking my timing is still pissed or the ICV is now fucked? anything else could be?
help
Id say your timing maybe 180 degrees out....
he done that last time 
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Tiger
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Easy mistake 
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Adam_B
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not that this time
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AK
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its not even spluttering and cutting out? just not 'catching'?
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corb
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mines been spluttering and cutting out adam, whatcha thinkin? I thought it may be vacuum hose ontop on my fuel reg. thats getting crushed might've caused it?
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AK
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did you check plugs, clean ICV etc ?
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corb
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nope, first i thought it was lack of fuel as id been driving a few days with the petrol light on(i couldnt be arsed to stop ad put petrol in, hassle) so put a can of juice in and still did it, opened bonnet and noticed the hose on fuel reg was bent right over, so un-crushed it and fired it up, started to splutter, so gave it a boot-full and it revd up at ticked over fine for bout 5mins til i turned it off. Not driven it since anyway.
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Adam_B
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ffs
put old cams and pulleys back in, old injectors back in, checked timing. still wont fucking start.
Now it trying, sounds like just one cylinder is firing but wont fully start. Leads me back to the ICV... its the only thing left.
as far as im aware all the earth straps are present, got 2 going to the throttle cable bracket and one from alternator to inlet
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Adam_B
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also took all the plugs out and cleaned them
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corsa kev
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dizzy?
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Adam_B
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changed that as well, we have a coil at work, will give that a go tomorrow
[Edited on 22-02-2005 by Adam_B]
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Adam_B
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woo hoo, got it started! one of the wires from the top of the coil was shagged, soldered it up and she fired first time
going out to crash into something now.....
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