Adam
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1 x Canon EOS 20D 8.5mp Digital Camera With 18-55 Lens Ebuyer £982.90
2 x Viking Hi-Speed 24x 1GB Compact Flash Card Ebuyer £46.01
2 x Canon BP511A Battery/Li-Ion 15V for PowerShot G1,G2,G3 & G5 Cameras Ebuyer £45.41
1 x Ebuyer 5.25 Internal 9 In 1 Card Reader In Black Ebuyer £5.16
1 x Canon EF 75-300mm f4/5.6 USM MK3 Jessops £149.99
And trying to find a decent portable 40GB card reader/storage...sugestions?
and another £300-400 for any other bits? Got a decent tripod already. Filters? Hood? Monopod? PCMCIA CF Card reader?
[Edited on 07-03-2005 by Adam]
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Adam
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http://www.adampetherick.co.uk/camera.xls
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Icy
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u got a laptop? with cd writer, jus burn them to cd
id get the 1gb CF2 cards on ebay for 52
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Patrick
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I don't get why people pay that money for a camera? Unless they make a bomb by being a proffesional photographer what is the point. A camera that costs a couple of hundred max still produces good quality pictures. Personally, I bought a £60 non digital camera and am very happy going to boots and getting the film developed. 
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Adam
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Not got a CD writer on the laptop, what speed are CF2? not sure wheter to go for a 2 x1gb or Lexar 2GB 80x Compact Flash Card @ £130
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Adam
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I don't get why people pay that money for a camera? Unless they make a bomb by being a proffesional photographer what is the point. A camera that costs a couple of hundred max still produces good quality pictures. Personally, I bought a £60 non digital camera and am very happy going to boots and getting the film developed.
I've got a Sony DSC-V1 now and not happy with the image quality., speed of the zoom or battery life
Quality - far to much noise
Speed - When i go to rallies the camera can't zoom out fast enough to capture the cars coming towards you
Battery - Have to take 3-4 batteries with me if I'm going out for a whole day
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Icy
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i only use my v1 for videos now
1k isnt much for a camera, the pro's use ones that r up to like 8k for one!
you dont have as much control over your pics with a compact
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Ian
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You need a wide lens as well.
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Adam
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Like?
10-22mm lens?
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
You need a wide lens as well.
18-55 is wide anything else is expensive
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M2RTY
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I don't get why people pay that money for a camera? Unless they make a bomb by being a proffesional photographer what is the point. A camera that costs a couple of hundred max still produces good quality pictures. Personally, I bought a £60 non digital camera and am very happy going to boots and getting the film developed.
just like you pay stupid money for your hobby - making standard cars not much faster for thousands of pounds 
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vibrio
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camera 982 ebuyer
58mm hoya UV filter for 18-55 13 7dayshop
Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 APO EX HSM 570 warehouse express
77mm hoya HMC UV filter for 70-200 26 7dayshop
card reader USB2 5 ebuyer
portable storage 160 warehouse express
flash 420EX 130 7dayshop
extra battery 8 ebay
tripod 30 local camera store
monopod velbon up 4000 20 warehouseexpress
quickrelease head 25 can't remember will find out
2x512 mb cards 60 ebay
2029
[Edited on 07-03-2005 by vibrio]
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick
I don't get why people pay that money for a camera? Unless they make a bomb by being a proffesional photographer what is the point. A camera that costs a couple of hundred max still produces good quality pictures. Personally, I bought a £60 non digital camera and am very happy going to boots and getting the film developed.
your £60 non digital would not do these shots
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
Not got a CD writer on the laptop, what speed are CF2? not sure wheter to go for a 2 x1gb or Lexar 2GB 80x Compact Flash Card @ £130
lexar are actually slower than the 66x sandisc ultra2 in the 20D. got my 1gig ultra2 for £52 delivered off ebay
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Adam
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Why the Sigma 70-200mm and not the Canon EF 75-300mm?
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vibrio
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sigma is a f2.8 lens. it's of far better quality too. the EF 75-300 is ok but it's a fast lens
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vibrio
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oh and don;t forget a bag. lowepro mini trekker classic £50 from warehouse express
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Adam
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If I'm going to be taking pictures of fast moving cars then a fast lense will be good?
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Ian
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To go fast you need a lot of light so yeah, wider aperture helps. Its not essential if your're outside or in sunlight but the times when you're not you'll be thankful of it.
You also need shutter speed to help with camera shake. The rule of thumb is 1/focal length is your shutter speed, so at 300mm, 1/300 = 300th of a second. If you can't go that fast because you're at f5.6, you'll have a blurry photo unless you're well supported.
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vibrio
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that shot of the horse was done wide open. at f5.6 I would have had to bump the iso from 800 to 3200 to get a fast enough shutter to freeze the action. once I get more cash I'll get a fast wider lens
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Adam
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Well the pics i took last year at the rally with the sony were taken on 1/1000 and 1/500 sec. So what you saying ian is something around <=f2.8 would be better for fast moving pics than some thing >=f5.6?
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Ian
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You'll still get those speeds with a narrower aperture but only if there is enough light. Overcast is a bit of a problem but you'll notice it most indoors.
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Adam
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So for pictures of cars in low light (forest floor) the f5.6 would be better?
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vibrio
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f5.6 is 2 stops slower than f2.8. so at iso 100
1/400s @ f2.8
1/200s @ f4
1/100s @ f5.6
to get 1/400s @ f5.6 you would need to increase the iso number to 800 at least. this would mean an increase in noise and quality would be reduced.
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
So for pictures of cars in low light (forest floor) the f5.6 would be better?
no f2.8 would be better
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