CorsAsh
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Apparently are becoming more and more responsible for deaths/injuries on the roads. They say they can't afford the right amount of training.
Thoughts on this? 
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vibrio
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they still drive better than the average chav in their corsa/saxo/punto
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Kiddy_Corsa
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So ur sayin everybody who drives a corsa is a chav?
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Edd
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quote:
Originally posted by Kiddy_Corsa
So ur sayin everybody who drives a corsa is a chav?
he drives a punto he is saying it for effect
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cargraphics4u.com
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was chattin to a police officer the other night, he said that only people who have passed certain stages of police driving or something like that are allowed to drive on blue lights now and also only certain cars. (don't take my word as gospel though as i can't remember exactly what he said )
[Edited on 24-06-2005 by graficxpress]
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Kiddy_Corsa
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Got ya!
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LukeGSi
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Driving with blue lights and sirens is far more dangerous than normal road conditions hence more accidents. The main problem is the general public don't know how to deal with emergency vehicles.
Grafficexpress - I don't know where he got that idea...all police officers have to do an advanced driving course enabling them to drive under emergency conditions although not all officers are traffic trained and are able to pursue.
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greycorsa
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but that copper that got clocked at 159mph, that was out of order.
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vibrio
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Originally posted by Kiddy_Corsa
So ur sayin everybody who drives a corsa is a chav?
sadly yes 
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Craigos
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The police are crap drivers and couldnt catch a cold...
There different classes of police drivers Class 1,2,3 etc class 1 and 2 can drive Irv Cars Such as T5, Octavia Vrs Mondeo V6 Etc. The difference between class 1 and 2 is how good you did on your driving test. class 3 etc drive focus's and astra diesels and some of them cant chase or even blue light...
[Edited on 24-06-2005 by Craigos]
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BeArDy
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Originally posted by Craigos
The police are crap drivers and couldnt catch a cold...
There different classes of police drivers Class 1,2,3 etc class 1 and 2 can drive Irv Cars Such as T5, Octavia Vrs Mondeo V6 Etc. The difference between class 1 and 2 is how good you did on your driving test. class 3 etc drive focus's and astra diesels and some of them cant chase or even blue light...
[Edited on 24-06-2005 by Craigos]
 
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greycorsa
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apparently all their cars are superchipped..... ive seen a few of the newer astras flyin about. slow as shit.
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SetH
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Originally posted by LukeGSi
Driving with blue lights and sirens is far more dangerous than normal road conditions hence more accidents. The main problem is the general public don't know how to deal with emergency vehicles.
Grafficexpress - I don't know where he got that idea...all police officers have to do an advanced driving course enabling them to drive under emergency conditions although not all officers are traffic trained and are able to pursue.
Also the general public dont see why they should have to kerb their alloys onto the pavement or take their splitter off to let an ambulance past
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Craigos
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Originally posted by greycorsa
apparently all their cars are superchipped..... ive seen a few of the newer astras flyin about. slow as shit.
ive been told that many of times. its a load of shit..
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Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
Driving with blue lights and sirens is far more dangerous than normal road conditions hence more accidents. The main problem is the general public don't know how to deal with emergency vehicles.
Grafficexpress - I don't know where he got that idea...all police officers have to do an advanced driving course enabling them to drive under emergency conditions although not all officers are traffic trained and are able to pursue.
Also the general public dont see why they should have to kerb their alloys onto the pavement or take their splitter off to let an ambulance past
The fear that it may be them inside it one day
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cargraphics4u.com
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quote:
Originally posted by LukeGSi
Driving with blue lights and sirens is far more dangerous than normal road conditions hence more accidents. The main problem is the general public don't know how to deal with emergency vehicles.
Grafficexpress - I don't know where he got that idea...all police officers have to do an advanced driving course enabling them to drive under emergency conditions although not all officers are traffic trained and are able to pursue.
Luke, I think that is what he might have been saying. Only the ones with the more advanced training (traffic trained) are allowed to now. I know that in the Fire service we have changed our procedures on how we drive to incidents with effect from the 1st of July, we will no longer drive to some 'special service incidents' on blues and twos, but proceed 'at normal road speed' instead, with no lights. this is for incidents life AFAs (Automatic fire alarms) people stuck in lifts etc.
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Robbo
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IMO its down to poor driver training (public that is - they dont teach you shit when your learning) and also the volatility of police chases these days
Id still give anything to be a police pursuit driver 
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dna23
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Originally posted by greycorsa
but that copper that got clocked at 159mph, that was out of order.
That cop defined super cool (note the italics).
The above statement is not opinion it is fact. 
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Fad
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To be fair most of the accident happen due to uncontrollable circumstances like hessitant cars ,and people obstructing persuit cars on the road etc
There are various classes as peeple have mentioned above but who ever said they are shit drivers are plain cocks as Traffic cops have to do an advanced driving course which is not easy to pass.
You will find some of the best drivers out there are cops and ambulance drivers I know this for a fact and two of my mates are ambulance and ex police drivers.
Also as Vibs said they are better than any chav saxo/corsa/punto driver out there
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Skinz
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Originally posted by Fad
To be fair most of the accident happen due to uncontrollable circumstances like hessitant cars ,and people obstructing persuit cars on the road etc
There are various classes as peeple have mentioned above but who ever said they are shit drivers are plain cocks as Traffic cops have to do an advanced driving course which is not easy to pass.
You will find some of the best drivers out there are cops and ambulance drivers I know this for a fact and two of my mates are ambulance and ex police drivers.
Also as Vibs said they are better than any chav saxo/corsa/punto driver out there
i think doing the said course makes them a better driver, i dont think by any means it makes them the best drivers on the road, i think being a very good driver is like being good at anything else in the world, takes natural talent
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Fad
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well there is some element of having natural ability but rember the people who are not like this dont pass the courses end of
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cargraphics4u.com
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Originally posted by Skinz
i think doing the said course makes them a better driver, i dont think by any means it makes them the best drivers on the road, i think being a very good driver is like being good at anything else in the world, takes natural talent
Fair enough, some people naturally take to driving better than others, but i would say that good, safe driving on public roads comes from experience. You've only got to look at the facts - the largest age group to be involved in fatal or serious accidents is 17 - 25 year olds - and insurance premiums to work that out.
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Robbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Fad
To be fair most of the accident happen due to uncontrollable circumstances like hessitant cars ,and people obstructing persuit cars on the road etc
There are various classes as peeple have mentioned above but who ever said they are shit drivers are plain cocks as Traffic cops have to do an advanced driving course which is not easy to pass.
You will find some of the best drivers out there are cops and ambulance drivers I know this for a fact and two of my mates are ambulance and ex police drivers.
Also as Vibs said they are better than any chav saxo/corsa/punto driver out there
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Meat-Pie-SRI
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quote:
Originally posted by Skinz
quote:
Originally posted by Fad
To be fair most of the accident happen due to uncontrollable circumstances like hessitant cars ,and people obstructing persuit cars on the road etc
There are various classes as peeple have mentioned above but who ever said they are shit drivers are plain cocks as Traffic cops have to do an advanced driving course which is not easy to pass.
You will find some of the best drivers out there are cops and ambulance drivers I know this for a fact and two of my mates are ambulance and ex police drivers.
Also as Vibs said they are better than any chav saxo/corsa/punto driver out there
i think doing the said course makes them a better driver, i dont think by any means it makes them the best drivers on the road, i think being a very good driver is like being good at anything else in the world, takes natural talent
Being a good and / or quick driver on a track etc is very different to being a fast road driver. For example, the line you would take on a track through a bend is very different to an effective and safe line that an emergency driver would take.
Driving an emergency vehicle on a road is all about being able to see as far infront of you as possible and making the vehicle as visible to members of the public as possible, where as driving in conditions where there is no one else around in the same circumstances as a road (ie a track) requires you to take the fastest possible line.
Police, Ambulance, Fire etc are trained to a high level of hazard perception and view the road differently to everyone else, no matter what driving courses you may have done, therefore it is the case that the vast majority of emergency responce drivers are much better road drivers than general members of the public, but this does not mean that they are by any means the fastest at driving their normal cars around on the roads like a nob or on a track, it clearly means that they are safer in road conditions..............................
So now you know
As yes, i may be slightly biased doing what I do but someone has got to fight our corner 
[Edited on 24-06-2005 by Meat-Pie-SRI]
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Cybermonkey
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well said meat pie
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